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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: What's cooking in git.git (Jan 2021, #02; Fri, 8)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 17:44:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq4kjjvuqz.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YADZSsVqyGnArF0n@google.com> (Emily Shaffer's message of "Thu, 14 Jan 2021 15:52:42 -0800")

Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com> writes:

> Secondly: it seems like a restatement of the goals of this patch would
> help guide a discussion of designs; I would be so pleased to see a
> cleaner solution than any that's been proposed so far, because I agree
> that this feature is not perfect. So please append what I have missed:
>
> Axiom: The current Git solution for avoiding deadnaming is insufficient.
> Axiom: We want to improve Git's solution for avoiding deadnaming.
> (That is, I don't think either of these statements are or should be up
> for discussion.)

Another one [*1*]:

Axiom: It is, by nature of how Git works, impossible to come up with
a solution that avoids deadnaming perfectly.  The best we can do is
to aim for "good enough".

> Goal: Projects which are contributed to by trans individuals who
> transition during their contribution period should provide a good,
> supportive experience, which does not deadname the individual.
> Goal: Git's performance should not suffer unduly from any change unless
> necessary.
> Goal: Project maintainers should have an understanding of the threat
> model (e.g. automated tools scraping for names, malicious individuals
> with time on their hands and experience with the project, etc)

Goal: the design should clearly describe the thread model it
supports, so that "good enough" can be judged against it.



[Footnote]

*1* This may be clear from what both you and I said about perfection
and being good enough.  I usually do not like to see people punt for
an imperfect solution too early without even trying, but in a case
like this where we know perfection is theoretically impossible, it
is a totally different story.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-15  1:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-08 19:22 What's cooking in git.git (Jan 2021, #02; Fri, 8) Junio C Hamano
2021-01-09 10:55 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-09 21:28   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-09 22:05     ` brian m. carlson
2021-01-09 23:20       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-11  1:53         ` brian m. carlson
2021-01-11 19:04           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-12 14:00             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-14 23:52               ` Emily Shaffer
2021-01-14 23:56                 ` Emily Shaffer
2021-01-15  7:22                   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-15  0:29                 ` brian m. carlson
2021-01-15  1:44                 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2021-01-16 16:23                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-17 17:15                   ` Jeff King
2021-01-17 20:22                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-10 19:00     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-11  0:21       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-09 21:38 ` David Aguilar
2021-01-09 23:08   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-14 23:06 ` Emily Shaffer
2021-01-15  1:50   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-15  2:24     ` Taylor Blau
2021-01-15  2:44       ` Taylor Blau
2021-01-15  2:36   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-01-15  2:54     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-01-15  6:36     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-15  6:38       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-15 11:36         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-01-15 19:44           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-15 20:08             ` Emily Shaffer
2021-01-15 20:59               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-15 19:52 ` Jeff King
2021-01-15 21:40   ` Junio C Hamano

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