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From: Ben Peart <peartben@gmail.com>
To: Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Ben Peart <Ben.Peart@microsoft.com>,
	Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>,
	Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>,
	Lars Schneider <larsxschneider@gmail.com>,
	Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>,
	Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 35/40] Add Documentation/technical/external-odb.txt
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 14:59:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e15513eb-aed9-8bd3-794d-009a91c1d20e@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170803091926.1755-36-chriscool@tuxfamily.org>



On 8/3/2017 5:19 AM, Christian Couder wrote:
> This describes the external odb mechanism's purpose and
> how it works.
> 
> Helped-by: Ben Peart <benpeart@microsoft.com>
> Signed-off-by: Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
> ---
>   Documentation/technical/external-odb.txt | 295 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>   1 file changed, 295 insertions(+)
>   create mode 100644 Documentation/technical/external-odb.txt
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/technical/external-odb.txt b/Documentation/technical/external-odb.txt
> new file mode 100644
> index 0000000000..5991221fd5
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/technical/external-odb.txt
> @@ -0,0 +1,295 @@
> +External ODBs
> +^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> +
> +The External ODB mechanism makes it possible for Git objects, mostly
> +blobs for now though, to be stored in an "external object database"
> +(External ODB).
> +
> +An External ODB can be any object store as long as there is an helper
> +program called an "odb helper" that can communicate with Git to
> +transfer objects to/from the external odb and to retrieve information
> +about available objects in the external odb.
> +
> +Purpose
> +=======
> +
> +The purpose of this mechanism is to make possible to handle Git
> +objects, especially blobs, in much more flexible ways.
> +
> +Currently Git can store its objects only in the form of loose objects
> +in separate files or packed objects in a pack file.
> +
> +This is not flexible enough for some important use cases like handling
> +really big binary files or handling a really big number of files that
> +are fetched only as needed. And it is not realistic to expect that Git
> +could fully natively handle many of such use cases.
> +
> +Furthermore many improvements that are dependent on specific setups
> +could be implemented in the way Git objects are managed if it was
> +possible to customize how the Git objects are handled. For example a
> +restartable clone using the bundle mechanism has often been requested,
> +but implementing that would go against the current strict rules under
> +which the Git objects are currently handled.
> +
> +What Git needs a mechanism to make it possible to customize in a lot
> +of different ways how the Git objects are handled. Though this
> +mechanism should try as much as possible to avoid interfering with the
> +usual way in which Git handle its objects.
> +
> +Helpers
> +=======
> +
> +ODB helpers are commands that have to be registered using either the
> +"odb.<odbname>.subprocessCommand" or the "odb.<odbname>.scriptCommand"
> +config variables.
> +
> +Registering such a command tells Git that an external odb called
> +<odbname> exists and that the registered command should be used to
> +communicate with it.
> +

What order are the odb handlers called? Are they called before or after 
the regular object store code for loose, pack and alternates?  Is the 
order configurable?

[...]
> +
> + - 'get_direct <sha1>'
> +
> +This instruction is similar as the other 'get_*' instructions except
> +that no object should be sent from the helper to Git. Instead the
> +helper should directly write the requested object into a loose object
> +file in the ".git/objects" directory.
> +
> +After the helper has sent the "status=success" packet and the
> +following flush packet in process mode, or after it has exited in the
> +script mode, Git should lookup again for a loose object file with the
> +requested sha1.

When will git call get_direct vs one of the other get_* functions? Could 
the functionality of enabling a helper to populate objects into the 
regular object store be provided by having a ODB helper that returned 
the object data as requested by get_git_obj or get_raw_obj but also 
stored it in the regular object store as a loose object (or pack file) 
for future calls?



  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-28 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-03  9:18 [PATCH v5 00/40] Add initial experimental external ODB support Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 01/40] builtin/clone: get rid of 'value' strbuf Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 02/40] t0021/rot13-filter: refactor packet reading functions Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 03/40] t0021/rot13-filter: improve 'if .. elsif .. else' style Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 04/40] Add Git/Packet.pm from parts of t0021/rot13-filter.pl Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:11   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-04  6:32     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 05/40] t0021/rot13-filter: use Git/Packet.pm Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 06/40] Git/Packet.pm: improve error message Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 07/40] Git/Packet.pm: add packet_initialize() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 08/40] Git/Packet.pm: add capability functions Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:14   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-04 20:34     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 09/40] sha1_file: prepare for external odbs Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 10/40] Add initial external odb support Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:34   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-03 20:17     ` Jeff King
2017-09-14 10:14     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 11/40] odb-helper: add odb_helper_init() to send 'init' instruction Christian Couder
2017-09-10 12:12   ` Lars Schneider
2017-09-14  7:18     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 12/40] t0400: add 'put_raw_obj' instruction to odb-helper script Christian Couder
2017-09-10 12:12   ` Lars Schneider
2017-09-14  7:09     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 13/40] external odb: add 'put_raw_obj' support Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:50   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-14  9:17     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 14/40] external-odb: accept only blobs for now Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:52   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-14  9:59     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 15/40] t0400: add test for external odb write support Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 16/40] Add GIT_NO_EXTERNAL_ODB env variable Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 17/40] Add t0410 to test external ODB transfer Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 18/40] lib-httpd: pass config file to start_httpd() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 19/40] lib-httpd: add upload.sh Christian Couder
2017-08-03 20:07   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-14  7:43     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 20/40] lib-httpd: add list.sh Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 21/40] lib-httpd: add apache-e-odb.conf Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 22/40] odb-helper: add odb_helper_get_raw_object() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 23/40] pack-objects: don't pack objects in external odbs Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 24/40] Add t0420 to test transfer to HTTP external odb Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 25/40] external-odb: add 'get_direct' support Christian Couder
2017-08-03 21:40   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-14  8:39     ` Christian Couder
2017-09-14 18:19       ` Jonathan Tan
2017-09-15 11:24         ` Christian Couder
2017-09-15 20:54           ` Jonathan Tan
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 26/40] odb-helper: add 'script_mode' to 'struct odb_helper' Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 27/40] odb-helper: add init_object_process() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 28/40] Add t0450 to test 'get_direct' mechanism Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 29/40] Add t0460 to test passing git objects Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 30/40] odb-helper: add put_object_process() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 31/40] Add t0470 to test passing raw objects Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 32/40] odb-helper: add have_object_process() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 33/40] Add t0480 to test "have" capability and raw objects Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 34/40] external-odb: use 'odb=magic' attribute to mark odb blobs Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 35/40] Add Documentation/technical/external-odb.txt Christian Couder
2017-08-03 18:38   ` Stefan Beller
2017-08-25  6:14     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-25 21:23       ` Jonathan Tan
2017-08-29  9:37         ` Christian Couder
2017-08-28 18:59   ` Ben Peart [this message]
2017-08-29 15:43     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-30 12:50       ` Ben Peart
2017-08-30 14:15         ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 36/40] clone: add 'initial' param to write_remote_refs() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 37/40] clone: add --initial-refspec option Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 38/40] clone: disable external odb before initial clone Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 39/40] Add tests for 'clone --initial-refspec' Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 40/40] Add t0430 to test cloning using bundles Christian Couder
2017-09-10 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 00/40] Add initial experimental external ODB support Lars Schneider
2017-09-14  7:02   ` Christian Couder

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