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From: Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, git <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, Ben Peart <Ben.Peart@microsoft.com>,
	Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>,
	Lars Schneider <larsxschneider@gmail.com>,
	Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>,
	Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 25/40] external-odb: add 'get_direct' support
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2017 13:24:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP8UFD0-myJuhBQhZoBiQ6cE4FEkzzuro-sZeDfCN-HK_LxriQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170914111945.62741763@twelve2.svl.corp.google.com>

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 10:39:35 +0200
> Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From the following email:
>>
>> https://public-inbox.org/git/20170804145113.5ceafafa@twelve2.svl.corp.google.com/
>>
>> it looks like his work is fundamentally about changing the rules of
>> connectivity checks. Objects are split between "homegrown" objects and
>> "imported" objects which are in separate pack files. Then references
>> to imported objects are not checked during connectivity check.
>>
>> I think changing connectivity rules is not necessary to make something
>> like external odb work. For example when fetching a pack that refers
>> to objects that are in an external odb, if access this external odb
>> has been configured, then the connectivity check will pass as the
>> missing objects in the pack will be seen as already part of the repo.
>
> There are still some nuances. For example, if an external ODB provides
> both a tree and a blob that the tree references, do we fetch the tree in
> order to call "have" on all its blobs, or do we trust the ODB that if it
> has the tree, it has all the other objects? In my design, I do the
> latter, but in the general case where we have multiple ODBs, we might
> have to do the former. (And if we do the former, it seems to me that the
> connectivity check must be performed "online" - that is, with the ODBs
> being able to provide "get".)

Yeah, I agree that the problem is more complex if there can be trees
or all kind of objects in the external odb.
But as I explain in the following email to Junio, I don't think
storing other kind of objects is one of the most interesting use case:

https://public-inbox.org/git/CAP8UFD3=nuTRF24CLSoK4HSGm3nxGh8SbZVpMCg7cNcHj2zkBA@mail.gmail.com/

> (Also, my work extends all the way to fetch/clone [1], but admittedly I
> have been taking it a step at a time and recently have only been
> discussing how the local repo should handle the missing object
> situation.)
>
> [1] https://public-inbox.org/git/cover.1499800530.git.jonathantanmy@google.com/

Yeah, I think your work is interesting and could perhaps be useful for
external odbs as there could be situations that would be handled
better using your work or something similar.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-15 11:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-03  9:18 [PATCH v5 00/40] Add initial experimental external ODB support Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 01/40] builtin/clone: get rid of 'value' strbuf Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 02/40] t0021/rot13-filter: refactor packet reading functions Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 03/40] t0021/rot13-filter: improve 'if .. elsif .. else' style Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 04/40] Add Git/Packet.pm from parts of t0021/rot13-filter.pl Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:11   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-04  6:32     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 05/40] t0021/rot13-filter: use Git/Packet.pm Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 06/40] Git/Packet.pm: improve error message Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 07/40] Git/Packet.pm: add packet_initialize() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 08/40] Git/Packet.pm: add capability functions Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:14   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-04 20:34     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 09/40] sha1_file: prepare for external odbs Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 10/40] Add initial external odb support Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:34   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-03 20:17     ` Jeff King
2017-09-14 10:14     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 11/40] odb-helper: add odb_helper_init() to send 'init' instruction Christian Couder
2017-09-10 12:12   ` Lars Schneider
2017-09-14  7:18     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 12/40] t0400: add 'put_raw_obj' instruction to odb-helper script Christian Couder
2017-09-10 12:12   ` Lars Schneider
2017-09-14  7:09     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 13/40] external odb: add 'put_raw_obj' support Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:50   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-14  9:17     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 14/40] external-odb: accept only blobs for now Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:52   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-14  9:59     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 15/40] t0400: add test for external odb write support Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 16/40] Add GIT_NO_EXTERNAL_ODB env variable Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 17/40] Add t0410 to test external ODB transfer Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 18/40] lib-httpd: pass config file to start_httpd() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 19/40] lib-httpd: add upload.sh Christian Couder
2017-08-03 20:07   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-14  7:43     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 20/40] lib-httpd: add list.sh Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 21/40] lib-httpd: add apache-e-odb.conf Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 22/40] odb-helper: add odb_helper_get_raw_object() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 23/40] pack-objects: don't pack objects in external odbs Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 24/40] Add t0420 to test transfer to HTTP external odb Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 25/40] external-odb: add 'get_direct' support Christian Couder
2017-08-03 21:40   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-14  8:39     ` Christian Couder
2017-09-14 18:19       ` Jonathan Tan
2017-09-15 11:24         ` Christian Couder [this message]
2017-09-15 20:54           ` Jonathan Tan
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 26/40] odb-helper: add 'script_mode' to 'struct odb_helper' Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 27/40] odb-helper: add init_object_process() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 28/40] Add t0450 to test 'get_direct' mechanism Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 29/40] Add t0460 to test passing git objects Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 30/40] odb-helper: add put_object_process() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 31/40] Add t0470 to test passing raw objects Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 32/40] odb-helper: add have_object_process() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 33/40] Add t0480 to test "have" capability and raw objects Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 34/40] external-odb: use 'odb=magic' attribute to mark odb blobs Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 35/40] Add Documentation/technical/external-odb.txt Christian Couder
2017-08-03 18:38   ` Stefan Beller
2017-08-25  6:14     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-25 21:23       ` Jonathan Tan
2017-08-29  9:37         ` Christian Couder
2017-08-28 18:59   ` Ben Peart
2017-08-29 15:43     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-30 12:50       ` Ben Peart
2017-08-30 14:15         ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 36/40] clone: add 'initial' param to write_remote_refs() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 37/40] clone: add --initial-refspec option Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 38/40] clone: disable external odb before initial clone Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 39/40] Add tests for 'clone --initial-refspec' Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 40/40] Add t0430 to test cloning using bundles Christian Couder
2017-09-10 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 00/40] Add initial experimental external ODB support Lars Schneider
2017-09-14  7:02   ` Christian Couder

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