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From: Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>
To: Ben Peart <peartben@gmail.com>
Cc: git <git@vger.kernel.org>, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, Ben Peart <Ben.Peart@microsoft.com>,
	Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>,
	Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>,
	Lars Schneider <larsxschneider@gmail.com>,
	Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>,
	Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 35/40] Add Documentation/technical/external-odb.txt
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 16:15:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP8UFD3+4mtmfVB47CsbVzmOMGK-WR4GYzXu6MfvOdGwrqx9=g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dc9b7aed-c781-d0fc-688f-32d665ad61ab@gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Ben Peart <peartben@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 8/29/2017 11:43 AM, Christian Couder wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Ben Peart <peartben@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/3/2017 5:19 AM, Christian Couder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +Helpers
>>>> +=======
>>>> +
>>>> +ODB helpers are commands that have to be registered using either the
>>>> +"odb.<odbname>.subprocessCommand" or the "odb.<odbname>.scriptCommand"
>>>> +config variables.
>>>> +
>>>> +Registering such a command tells Git that an external odb called
>>>> +<odbname> exists and that the registered command should be used to
>>>> +communicate with it.
>>>
>>>
>>> What order are the odb handlers called? Are they called before or after
>>> the
>>> regular object store code for loose, pack and alternates?  Is the order
>>> configurable?
>>
>>
>> For get_*_object instructions the regular code is called before the odb
>> helpers.
>> (So the odb helper code is at the end of stat_sha1_file() and of
>> open_sha1_file() in sha1_file.c.)
>>
>> For put_*_object instructions the regular code is called after the odb
>> helpers.
>> (So the odb helper code is at the beginning of write_sha1_file() in
>> sha1_file.c.)
>>
>> And no this order is not configurable, but of course it could be made
>> configurable.
>>
>>>> + - 'get_direct <sha1>'
>>>> +
>>>> +This instruction is similar as the other 'get_*' instructions except
>>>> +that no object should be sent from the helper to Git. Instead the
>>>> +helper should directly write the requested object into a loose object
>>>> +file in the ".git/objects" directory.
>>>> +
>>>> +After the helper has sent the "status=success" packet and the
>>>> +following flush packet in process mode, or after it has exited in the
>>>> +script mode, Git should lookup again for a loose object file with the
>>>> +requested sha1.
>>>
>>>
>>> When will git call get_direct vs one of the other get_* functions?
>>
>>
>> It is called just before exiting when git cannot find an object.
>> It is not exactly at the same place as other get_* instructions as I
>> tried to reuse your code and as it looks like it makes it easier to
>> retry the regular code after the odb helper code.
>>
>>> Could the
>>> functionality of enabling a helper to populate objects into the regular
>>> object store be provided by having a ODB helper that returned the object
>>> data as requested by get_git_obj or get_raw_obj but also stored it in the
>>> regular object store as a loose object (or pack file) for future calls?
>>
>>
>> I am not sure I understand what you mean.
>> If a helper returns the object data as requested by get_git_obj or
>> get_raw_obj, then currently Git will itself store the object locally
>> in its regular object store, so it is redundant for the helper to also
>> store or try to store the object in the regular object store.
>>
>
> Doesn't this mean that objects will "leak out" into the regular object store
> as they are used?  For example, at checkout, all objects in the requested
> commit would be retrieved from the various object stores and if they came
> from a "large blob" ODB handler, they would get retrieved from the ODB
> handler and then written to the regular object store (presumably as a loose
> object).  From then on, the object would be retrieved from the regular
> object store.
>
> This would seem to defeat the goal of enabling specialized object handlers
> to handle large or other "unusual" objects that git normally doesn't deal
> well with.

Yeah, I agree that storing the objects in the regular object store
should not be done in all the cases.
There should be a way to control that.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-30 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-03  9:18 [PATCH v5 00/40] Add initial experimental external ODB support Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 01/40] builtin/clone: get rid of 'value' strbuf Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 02/40] t0021/rot13-filter: refactor packet reading functions Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 03/40] t0021/rot13-filter: improve 'if .. elsif .. else' style Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 04/40] Add Git/Packet.pm from parts of t0021/rot13-filter.pl Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:11   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-04  6:32     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 05/40] t0021/rot13-filter: use Git/Packet.pm Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 06/40] Git/Packet.pm: improve error message Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 07/40] Git/Packet.pm: add packet_initialize() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 08/40] Git/Packet.pm: add capability functions Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:14   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-04 20:34     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 09/40] sha1_file: prepare for external odbs Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 10/40] Add initial external odb support Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:34   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-03 20:17     ` Jeff King
2017-09-14 10:14     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 11/40] odb-helper: add odb_helper_init() to send 'init' instruction Christian Couder
2017-09-10 12:12   ` Lars Schneider
2017-09-14  7:18     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 12/40] t0400: add 'put_raw_obj' instruction to odb-helper script Christian Couder
2017-09-10 12:12   ` Lars Schneider
2017-09-14  7:09     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:18 ` [PATCH v5 13/40] external odb: add 'put_raw_obj' support Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:50   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-14  9:17     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 14/40] external-odb: accept only blobs for now Christian Couder
2017-08-03 19:52   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-14  9:59     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 15/40] t0400: add test for external odb write support Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 16/40] Add GIT_NO_EXTERNAL_ODB env variable Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 17/40] Add t0410 to test external ODB transfer Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 18/40] lib-httpd: pass config file to start_httpd() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 19/40] lib-httpd: add upload.sh Christian Couder
2017-08-03 20:07   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-14  7:43     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 20/40] lib-httpd: add list.sh Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 21/40] lib-httpd: add apache-e-odb.conf Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 22/40] odb-helper: add odb_helper_get_raw_object() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 23/40] pack-objects: don't pack objects in external odbs Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 24/40] Add t0420 to test transfer to HTTP external odb Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 25/40] external-odb: add 'get_direct' support Christian Couder
2017-08-03 21:40   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-14  8:39     ` Christian Couder
2017-09-14 18:19       ` Jonathan Tan
2017-09-15 11:24         ` Christian Couder
2017-09-15 20:54           ` Jonathan Tan
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 26/40] odb-helper: add 'script_mode' to 'struct odb_helper' Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 27/40] odb-helper: add init_object_process() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 28/40] Add t0450 to test 'get_direct' mechanism Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 29/40] Add t0460 to test passing git objects Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 30/40] odb-helper: add put_object_process() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 31/40] Add t0470 to test passing raw objects Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 32/40] odb-helper: add have_object_process() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 33/40] Add t0480 to test "have" capability and raw objects Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 34/40] external-odb: use 'odb=magic' attribute to mark odb blobs Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 35/40] Add Documentation/technical/external-odb.txt Christian Couder
2017-08-03 18:38   ` Stefan Beller
2017-08-25  6:14     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-25 21:23       ` Jonathan Tan
2017-08-29  9:37         ` Christian Couder
2017-08-28 18:59   ` Ben Peart
2017-08-29 15:43     ` Christian Couder
2017-08-30 12:50       ` Ben Peart
2017-08-30 14:15         ` Christian Couder [this message]
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 36/40] clone: add 'initial' param to write_remote_refs() Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 37/40] clone: add --initial-refspec option Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 38/40] clone: disable external odb before initial clone Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 39/40] Add tests for 'clone --initial-refspec' Christian Couder
2017-08-03  9:19 ` [PATCH v5 40/40] Add t0430 to test cloning using bundles Christian Couder
2017-09-10 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 00/40] Add initial experimental external ODB support Lars Schneider
2017-09-14  7:02   ` Christian Couder

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