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From: "Kristoffer Haugsbakk" <code@khaugsbakk.name>
To: brianmlyles <brianmlyles@gmail.com>
Cc: "Taylor Blau" <me@ttaylorr.com>,
	"Elijah Newren" <newren@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] sequencer: Do not require `allow_empty` for redundant commit options
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2024 22:38:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d6361ecf-82bc-46c6-adfe-3c6ab25d39b2@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240119060721.3734775-2-brianmlyles@gmail.com>

Initial discussion (proposal): https://lore.kernel.org/git/CAHPHrSevBdQF0BisR8VK=jM=wj1dTUYEVrv31gLerAzL9=Cd8Q@mail.gmail.com/

On Fri, Jan 19, 2024, at 06:59, brianmlyles@gmail.com wrote:
> From: Brian Lyles <brianmlyles@gmail.com>
>
> Previously, a consumer of the sequencer that wishes to take advantage of
> either the `keep_redundant_commits` or `drop_redundant_commits` feature
> must also specify `allow_empty`.

Previously to this change? It is preferred to describe what the code
currently does without this change in the present tense.[1] The change
itself uses the imperative mood.[2]

† 1: SubmittingPatches, “The problem statement that describes the status
    quo …”
† 2: SubmittingPatches, “Describe your changes in imperative mood […] as
    if you are giving orders to the codebase to change its behavior.”

> The only consumer of `drop_redundant_commits` is `git-rebase`, which
> already allows empty commits by default and simply always enables
> `allow_empty`. `keep_redundant_commits` was also consumed by
> `git-cherry-pick`, which had to specify `allow-empty` when
> `keep_redundant_commits` was specified in order for the sequencer's
> `allow_empty()` to actually respect `keep_redundant_commits`.
>
> The latter is an interesting case: As noted in the docs, this means that
> `--keep-redundant-commits` implies `--allow-empty`, despite the two
> having distinct, non-overlapping meanings:

Huh. I’m used to the git-rebase(1) behavior and I definitely would have
just assumed that git-cherry-pick(1) behaves the same. :) Nice catch.

> This implication of `--allow-empty` therefore seems incorrect: One
> should be able to keep a commit that becomes empty without also being
> forced to pick commits that start as empty. However, today, the
> following series of commands would result in both the commit that became
> empty and the commit that started empty being picked despite only
> `--keep-redundant-commits` being specified:

Nice description of the current problem. All of it.

> In a future commit, an `--empty` option will be added to
> `git-cherry-pick`, meaning that `drop_redundant_commits` will be
> available in that command. For that to be possible with the current
> implementation of the sequencer's `allow_empty()`, `git-cherry-pick`
> would need to specify `allow_empty` with `drop_redundant_commits` as
> well, which is an even less intuitive implication of `--allow-empty`: in
> order to prevent redundant commits automatically, initially-empty
> commits would need to be kept automatically.
>
> Instead, this commit rewrites the `allow_empty()` logic to remove the
> over-arching requirement that `allow_empty` be specified in order to
> reach any of the keep/drop behaviors. Only if the commit was originally
> empty will `allow_empty` have an effect.

In general, phrases like “this commit <verb>” or “this patch <verb>” can
be rewritten to the “commanding” style (see [2]).[3] But here you’re
starting a new paragraph after having talked about a future commit, so
using the commanding style might be stylistically difficult to pull off
without breaking the flow of the text.

And “this [commit][patch] <verb>” seems to be used with some regularity in
any case.

🔗 3: https://lore.kernel.org/git/xmqqedeqienh.fsf@gitster.g/

> Disclaimer: This is my first contribution to the git project, and thus
> my first attempt at submitting a patch via `git-send-email`. It is also
> the first time I've touched worked in C in over a decade, and I really
> didn't work with it much before that either. I welcome any and all
> feedback on what I may have gotten wrong regarding the patch submission
> process, the code changes, or my commit messages.

This part (after the commit message) looks like the cover letter for the
series (the four patches). `SubmittingPatches` recommends submitting that
in a dedicated email message (for series that have more than one
patch). Maybe this cover letter style is just an alternative that is
equally accepted. But most series use a separate cover letter message for
what it’s worth.

Cheers

-- 
Kristoffer Haugsbakk


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-01-20 21:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-19  5:59 [PATCH 1/4] sequencer: Do not require `allow_empty` for redundant commit options brianmlyles
2024-01-19  5:59 ` [PATCH 2/4] docs: Clean up `--empty` formatting in `git-rebase` and `git-am` brianmlyles
2024-01-23 14:24   ` Phillip Wood
2024-01-27 21:22     ` Brian Lyles
2024-02-01 14:02       ` Phillip Wood
2024-01-19  5:59 ` [PATCH 3/4] rebase: Update `--empty=ask` to `--empty=drop` brianmlyles
2024-01-23 14:24   ` Phillip Wood
2024-01-27 21:49     ` Brian Lyles
2024-02-01 14:02       ` Phillip Wood
2024-01-19  5:59 ` [PATCH 4/4] cherry-pick: Add `--empty` for more robust redundant commit handling brianmlyles
2024-01-20 20:24   ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-01-21 18:28     ` Brian Lyles
2024-01-21 22:05       ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-01-21 22:41       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-01-22 10:40       ` Phillip Wood
2024-01-22 20:55       ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-01-23  5:23         ` Brian Lyles
2024-01-23  7:11           ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-01-23 17:32           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-01-23 18:41             ` Subject: [PATCH] CoC: whitespace fix Junio C Hamano
2024-01-24  3:06               ` Elijah Newren
2024-01-23 18:49             ` [PATCH 4/4] cherry-pick: Add `--empty` for more robust redundant commit handling Junio C Hamano
2024-01-23 14:25   ` Phillip Wood
2024-01-23 18:01     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-01-28  0:07       ` Brian Lyles
2024-01-27 23:56     ` Brian Lyles
2024-01-20 21:38 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk [this message]
2024-01-21 18:19   ` [PATCH 1/4] sequencer: Do not require `allow_empty` for redundant commit options Brian Lyles
2024-01-23 14:23 ` Phillip Wood
2024-01-23 18:18   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-01-24 11:01   ` Phillip Wood
2024-01-24 11:01 ` Phillip Wood
2024-01-27 23:30   ` Brian Lyles
2024-01-28 16:36     ` Brian Lyles
2024-01-29 10:55       ` Phillip Wood
2024-02-10  5:50         ` Brian Lyles
2024-02-01 10:57     ` Phillip Wood
2024-02-10  4:34       ` Brian Lyles
2024-02-10  7:43 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] cherry-pick: add `--empty` Brian Lyles
2024-02-22 16:39   ` phillip.wood123
2024-02-10  7:43 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] docs: address inaccurate `--empty` default with `--exec` Brian Lyles
2024-02-10  7:43 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] docs: clean up `--empty` formatting in git-rebase(1) and git-am(1) Brian Lyles
2024-02-10  7:43 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] rebase: update `--empty=ask` to `--empty=drop` Brian Lyles
2024-02-11  4:54   ` Brian Lyles
2024-02-14 11:05     ` Phillip Wood
2024-02-22 16:34   ` phillip.wood123
2024-02-22 18:27     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-02-10  7:43 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] sequencer: treat error reading HEAD as unborn branch Brian Lyles
2024-02-22 16:34   ` phillip.wood123
2024-02-23  5:28     ` Brian Lyles
2024-02-25 16:57       ` phillip.wood123
2024-02-10  7:43 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] sequencer: do not require `allow_empty` for redundant commit options Brian Lyles
2024-02-22 16:35   ` phillip.wood123
2024-02-10  7:43 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] cherry-pick: decouple `--allow-empty` and `--keep-redundant-commits` Brian Lyles
2024-02-22 16:35   ` Phillip Wood
2024-02-22 18:41     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-02-10  7:43 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] cherry-pick: enforce `--keep-redundant-commits` incompatibility Brian Lyles
2024-02-22 16:35   ` Phillip Wood
2024-02-23  6:23     ` Brian Lyles
2024-02-23 17:41       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-02-25 16:58       ` phillip.wood123
2024-02-26  3:04         ` Brian Lyles
2024-02-10  7:43 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] cherry-pick: add `--empty` for more robust redundant commit handling Brian Lyles
2024-02-11 20:50   ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2024-02-12  1:35     ` Brian Lyles
2024-02-22 16:36   ` phillip.wood123
2024-02-23  6:58     ` Brian Lyles
2024-02-25 16:57       ` phillip.wood123
2024-02-26  2:21         ` Brian Lyles
2024-02-26  3:32         ` Brian Lyles
2024-02-27 10:39           ` phillip.wood123
2024-02-27 17:33             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-10 18:41 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] " Brian Lyles
2024-03-13 16:12   ` phillip.wood123
2024-03-10 18:42 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] docs: address inaccurate `--empty` default with `--exec` Brian Lyles
2024-03-10 18:42 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] docs: clean up `--empty` formatting in git-rebase(1) and git-am(1) Brian Lyles
2024-03-10 18:42 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] rebase: update `--empty=ask` to `--empty=stop` Brian Lyles
2024-03-10 18:42 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] sequencer: treat error reading HEAD as unborn branch Brian Lyles
2024-03-11  0:07   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-11 16:54     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-12  2:04       ` Brian Lyles
2024-03-12 22:25         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-16  3:05           ` Brian Lyles
2024-03-13 15:10   ` phillip.wood123
2024-03-16  3:07     ` Brian Lyles
2024-03-10 18:42 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] sequencer: do not require `allow_empty` for redundant commit options Brian Lyles
2024-03-10 18:42 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] cherry-pick: enforce `--keep-redundant-commits` incompatibility Brian Lyles
2024-03-10 18:42 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] cherry-pick: add `--empty` for more robust redundant commit handling Brian Lyles
2024-03-13 16:10   ` phillip.wood123
2024-03-13 17:17     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-16  5:20       ` Brian Lyles
2024-03-20 19:35         ` phillip.wood123
2024-03-20 23:36 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] " Brian Lyles
2024-03-25 14:38   ` phillip.wood123
2024-03-25 16:12     ` Brian Lyles
2024-03-25 19:36       ` phillip.wood123
2024-03-25 20:57         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-20 23:36 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] docs: address inaccurate `--empty` default with `--exec` Brian Lyles
2024-03-20 23:36 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] docs: clean up `--empty` formatting in git-rebase(1) and git-am(1) Brian Lyles
2024-03-20 23:36 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] rebase: update `--empty=ask` to `--empty=stop` Brian Lyles
2024-03-20 23:36 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] sequencer: handle unborn branch with `--allow-empty` Brian Lyles
2024-03-21  9:52   ` Dirk Gouders
2024-03-21 16:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-21 19:45       ` Dirk Gouders
2024-03-20 23:37 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] sequencer: do not require `allow_empty` for redundant commit options Brian Lyles
2024-03-20 23:37 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] cherry-pick: enforce `--keep-redundant-commits` incompatibility Brian Lyles
2024-03-20 23:37 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] cherry-pick: add `--empty` for more robust redundant commit handling Brian Lyles
2024-03-25 23:16 ` [PATCH v5 0/7] " Brian Lyles
2024-03-26 14:45   ` phillip.wood123
2024-03-26 18:28     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-27 16:37       ` phillip.wood123
2024-03-25 23:16 ` [PATCH v5 1/7] docs: address inaccurate `--empty` default with `--exec` Brian Lyles
2024-03-25 23:16 ` [PATCH v5 2/7] docs: clean up `--empty` formatting in git-rebase(1) and git-am(1) Brian Lyles
2024-03-25 23:16 ` [PATCH v5 3/7] rebase: update `--empty=ask` to `--empty=stop` Brian Lyles
2024-03-25 23:16 ` [PATCH v5 4/7] sequencer: handle unborn branch with `--allow-empty` Brian Lyles
2024-03-25 23:16 ` [PATCH v5 5/7] sequencer: do not require `allow_empty` for redundant commit options Brian Lyles
2024-03-25 23:16 ` [PATCH v5 6/7] cherry-pick: enforce `--keep-redundant-commits` incompatibility Brian Lyles
2024-03-25 23:16 ` [PATCH v5 7/7] cherry-pick: add `--empty` for more robust redundant commit handling Brian Lyles

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