From: Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>
To: Steven Grimm <koreth@midwinter.com>
Cc: Reece Dunn <msclrhd@googlemail.com>,
"Shawn O. Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:44:45 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.9999.0710141542020.19446@xanadu.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47125BF7.2070503@midwinter.com>
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, Steven Grimm wrote:
> Verbosity. IMO Mercurial swings too far in this direction, but in general it's
> either completely silent or very terse in its output. There is never, as far
> as I can see, any low-level diagnostic information spit out to the user unless
> an hg command is run with a "verbose" option. Here's "hg pull; hg update", for
> example (and "pull" is one of hg's chattier commands):
>
> pulling from ../child1
> searching for changes
> adding changesets
> adding manifests
> adding file changes
> added 8 changesets with 8 changes to 3 files (+1 heads)
> (run 'hg heads' to see heads, 'hg merge' to merge)
> 3 files updated, 0 files merged, 0 files removed, 0 files unresolved
>
> Compare with the equivalent "git pull" and put yourself in the shoes of a user
> who is running that command for the first time:
BTW I have patches here reworking the progress code for a more compact
display which should mitigate this issue quite a bit.
Nicolas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-14 19:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 161+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-08 20:55 Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued Jakub Narebski
2007-10-12 22:08 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-12 23:36 ` Frank Lichtenheld
2007-10-13 0:46 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-13 2:13 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-13 2:53 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-13 12:58 ` Frank Lichtenheld
2007-10-13 13:04 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-13 18:00 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-13 19:59 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-13 20:27 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-13 20:57 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-14 0:36 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14 1:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-14 1:44 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-14 3:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-14 3:43 ` david
2007-10-14 3:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-14 10:20 ` Reece Dunn
2007-10-14 18:12 ` Steven Grimm
2007-10-14 18:40 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-14 19:25 ` Steven Grimm
2007-10-14 19:50 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-14 20:18 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14 20:22 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-14 20:24 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-14 19:44 ` Nicolas Pitre [this message]
2007-10-15 23:20 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-16 2:48 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-10-16 10:51 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14 2:06 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14 8:45 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-14 9:21 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-14 21:49 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-14 22:08 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14 22:17 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-14 22:12 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-14 22:15 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-14 22:23 ` Matthew Andrews
2007-10-14 22:30 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-14 21:10 ` David Tweed
2007-10-19 20:57 ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-19 23:27 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-19 23:37 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22 14:28 ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-20 8:03 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-20 10:19 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-20 11:29 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-21 6:08 ` Dmitry Potapov
2007-10-20 23:06 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-20 23:33 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-21 7:17 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-21 22:15 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22 7:59 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-22 11:04 ` best git practices, was " Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22 12:44 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-22 13:48 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22 14:31 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-22 15:00 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22 15:16 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-22 15:42 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-22 19:36 ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-22 23:21 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 19:04 ` Carl Worth
2007-10-22 23:35 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-23 5:38 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-23 10:58 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-24 18:48 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-24 19:20 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-24 19:41 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-24 19:48 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-24 20:12 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-24 20:33 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-24 21:06 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-24 21:20 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-24 21:28 ` Peter Baumann
2007-10-24 21:47 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-24 22:14 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-24 22:33 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-24 22:38 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-24 22:51 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-24 23:28 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 6:02 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-25 10:27 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 12:04 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-25 7:15 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 7:31 ` Peter Baumann
2007-10-25 7:57 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 8:25 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-25 10:17 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 10:33 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 12:09 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-25 12:58 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 13:24 ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-25 14:58 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 15:21 ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-25 17:05 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 18:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-10-25 20:18 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-26 6:18 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-26 7:53 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 18:02 ` best git practices, was Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinishedsummary continued Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-25 18:04 ` Mike Hommey
2007-10-25 18:18 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-25 18:23 ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-25 20:08 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-26 20:01 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-25 16:06 ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-25 16:38 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-25 18:06 ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-25 18:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-25 20:19 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 20:27 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-26 9:17 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-26 4:41 ` [PATCH] Make rebase smarter Steven Walter
2007-10-26 7:42 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-26 9:57 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-26 21:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-10-26 23:13 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-26 23:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-10-24 21:54 ` best git practices, was Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-24 22:17 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 8:07 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 10:12 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 10:24 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 11:39 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 12:46 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 14:51 ` Karl Hasselström
2007-10-25 17:10 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 7:26 ` Peter Baumann
2007-10-24 21:16 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-24 20:13 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-24 23:48 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-25 7:42 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 10:07 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 10:39 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-25 16:16 ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-23 7:24 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-22 18:06 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-10-22 13:17 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2007-10-22 13:33 ` David Symonds
2007-10-22 13:38 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22 17:48 ` Robin Rosenberg
2007-10-23 22:13 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-22 13:36 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2007-10-22 15:24 ` best git practices, was Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summarycontinued Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-24 2:06 ` best git practices, was Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued Jakub Narebski
2007-10-24 10:29 ` Karl Hasselström
2007-10-24 11:04 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-24 11:31 ` Karl Hasselström
2007-10-24 23:27 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-25 6:10 ` Karl Hasselström
2007-10-24 13:15 ` Catalin Marinas
2007-10-22 12:26 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-22 13:45 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22 14:29 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-22 14:53 ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-22 23:27 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-22 22:53 ` Steven Grimm
2007-10-21 22:12 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-13 3:04 ` Shawn O. Pearce
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