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From: Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:45:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4711D72B.2080107@op5.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0710140304430.25221@racer.site>

Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
>>
>> Not everybody is a "doer". It's important to get input from people who are 
>> just plain users, or hope to be.
> 
> A pity, but you're probably right.
> 

It's not a pity, and he's most definitely right. Users tend to think in terms
of "I'd like to get this task done" while coders tend to think in terms of
"this would be cool/possible to implement". The reason git actually *works* so
great is, I'm sure, the fact that it was originally designed around a very specific
need by someone thinking like a *user*. The fact that it happened to be a pretty
competent programmer just meant he could express his wishes as algorithms in a
programming language and make it happen.

I'm 100% sure that if Linus had been so interested in SCM's that he'd abandoned
the Linux kernel to be full-time maintainer for git instead, it would have had
all sorts of oddities in it that nobody uses, just because they're possible to
do.

I also think Linus made a very wise decision in picking Junio to maintain it. So
far, I haven't seen him accept a single feature-patch into git that wasn't
explained to solve a specific problem.

-- 
Andreas Ericsson                   andreas.ericsson@op5.se
OP5 AB                             www.op5.se
Tel: +46 8-230225                  Fax: +46 8-230231

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-14  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 161+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-08 20:55 Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued Jakub Narebski
2007-10-12 22:08 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-12 23:36   ` Frank Lichtenheld
2007-10-13  0:46   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-13  2:13     ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-13  2:53     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-13 12:58     ` Frank Lichtenheld
2007-10-13 13:04       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-13 18:00     ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-13 19:59     ` David Kastrup
2007-10-13 20:27       ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-13 20:57         ` David Kastrup
2007-10-14  0:36         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14  1:13           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-14  1:44             ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-14  3:15               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-14  3:43                 ` david
2007-10-14  3:55                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-14 10:20               ` Reece Dunn
2007-10-14 18:12                 ` Steven Grimm
2007-10-14 18:40                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-14 19:25                     ` Steven Grimm
2007-10-14 19:50                     ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-14 20:18                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14 20:22                         ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-14 20:24                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-14 19:44                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-10-15 23:20                     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-16  2:48                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-10-16 10:51                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14  2:06             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14  8:45               ` Andreas Ericsson [this message]
2007-10-14  9:21                 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-14 21:49       ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-14 22:08         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14 22:17           ` David Kastrup
2007-10-14 22:12         ` David Kastrup
2007-10-14 22:15           ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-14 22:23           ` Matthew Andrews
2007-10-14 22:30             ` David Kastrup
2007-10-14 21:10     ` David Tweed
2007-10-19 20:57     ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-19 23:27       ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-19 23:37       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22 14:28         ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-20  8:03       ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-20 10:19         ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-20 11:29           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-21  6:08             ` Dmitry Potapov
2007-10-20 23:06           ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-20 23:33             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-21  7:17               ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-21 22:15                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22  7:59                   ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-22 11:04                     ` best git practices, was " Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22 12:44                       ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-22 13:48                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22 14:31                           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-22 15:00                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22 15:16                               ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-22 15:42                                 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-22 19:36                                 ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-22 23:21                                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 19:04                                     ` Carl Worth
2007-10-22 23:35                             ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-23  5:38                               ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-23 10:58                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-24 18:48                                   ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-24 19:20                                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-24 19:41                                       ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-24 19:48                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-24 20:12                                           ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-24 20:33                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-24 21:06                                               ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-24 21:20                                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-24 21:28                                                 ` Peter Baumann
2007-10-24 21:47                                                   ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-24 22:14                                                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-24 22:33                                                       ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-24 22:38                                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-24 22:51                                                           ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-24 23:28                                                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25  6:02                                                           ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-25 10:27                                                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 12:04                                                               ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-25  7:15                                                           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25  7:31                                                             ` Peter Baumann
2007-10-25  7:57                                                               ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25  8:25                                                                 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-25 10:17                                                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 10:33                                                               ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 12:09                                                                 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-25 12:58                                                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 13:24                                                                 ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-25 14:58                                                                   ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 15:21                                                                     ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-25 17:05                                                                       ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 18:33                                                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-10-25 20:18                                                                           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-26  6:18                                                                             ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-26  7:53                                                                               ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 18:02                                                                       ` best git practices, was Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinishedsummary continued Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-25 18:04                                                                         ` Mike Hommey
2007-10-25 18:18                                                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-25 18:23                                                                         ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-25 20:08                                                                         ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-26 20:01                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-10-25 16:06                                                       ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-25 16:38                                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-25 18:06                                                           ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-25 18:16                                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-25 20:19                                                             ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 20:27                                                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-26  9:17                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-26  4:41                                                         ` [PATCH] Make rebase smarter Steven Walter
2007-10-26  7:42                                                           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-26  9:57                                                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-26 21:02                                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-10-26 23:13                                                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-26 23:29                                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-10-24 21:54                                                   ` best git practices, was Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-24 22:17                                                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25  8:07                                                       ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 10:12                                                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 10:24                                                           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 11:39                                                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 12:46                                                               ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 14:51                                                                 ` Karl Hasselström
2007-10-25 17:10                                                                   ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25  7:26                                                     ` Peter Baumann
2007-10-24 21:16                                               ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-24 20:13                                           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-24 23:48                                         ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-25  7:42                                           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 10:07                                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 10:39                                               ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-25 16:16                                           ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-23  7:24                               ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-22 18:06                           ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-10-22 13:17                       ` Wincent Colaiuta
2007-10-22 13:33                         ` David Symonds
2007-10-22 13:38                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22 17:48                           ` Robin Rosenberg
2007-10-23 22:13                         ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-22 13:36                       ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2007-10-22 15:24                       ` best git practices, was Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summarycontinued Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-24  2:06                       ` best git practices, was Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued Jakub Narebski
2007-10-24 10:29                         ` Karl Hasselström
2007-10-24 11:04                           ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-24 11:31                             ` Karl Hasselström
2007-10-24 23:27                               ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-25  6:10                                 ` Karl Hasselström
2007-10-24 13:15                             ` Catalin Marinas
2007-10-22 12:26                     ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-22 13:45                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22 14:29                       ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-22 14:53                     ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-22 23:27                       ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-22 22:53                   ` Steven Grimm
2007-10-21 22:12           ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-13  3:04   ` Shawn O. Pearce

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