From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>, Git List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mingw: document the experimental standard handle redirection
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 18:20:25 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1.1711021819430.6482@virtualbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqr2thsby4.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com>
Hi Junio,
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:
>
> >> > I feel this is the wrong way round. `>/dev/null` may sound very intuitive
> >> > to you, but this feature is Windows only. Guess three times how intuitive
> >> > it sounds to Windows developers to write `>/dev/null` if you want to
> >> > suppress output...
> >>
> >> It would be just as intuitive to write '2>&1' for dup-redirection,
> >
> > No. You misunderstand. I was mainly concerned with the `/dev/null`. Every
> > Windows developer knows what `>file.txt` means, and many know what
> > `2>error.txt` means. But `/dev/null` is not Windows, period.
>
> Actually I did know that much.
>
> If I was correct in assuming that "2>&1" is just as foreign as
> ">/dev/null", then we should be shunning "2>&1" just like we shun
> ">/dev/null". That was all I meant to say.
Did you know that `2>&1` works in Powershell?
> Are you saying "2>&1" is just as likely to be known as ">file.txt"
> and my assumption of foreignness of "2>&1" was incorrect?
>
> Side note: would ">NUL" look more familiar, I wonder, and
> can stand for ">/dev/null" for the target audience?
>
> > ... It is so not
> > Windows that Git itself translates it to `NUL` (which you Linux die-hards
> > won't have a clue about, I would wager a bet).
>
> Ah, you lost your bet. When can I collect ;-)?
As soon as we meet in person again.
Ciao,
Dscho
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-02 17:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-30 17:10 [PATCH 0/3] mingw: introduce a way to avoid std handle inheritance Johannes Schindelin
2017-10-30 17:10 ` [PATCH 1/3] mingw: add experimental feature to redirect standard handles Johannes Schindelin
2017-10-30 17:10 ` [PATCH 2/3] mingw: special-case GIT_REDIRECT_STDERR=2>&1 Johannes Schindelin
2017-10-30 17:10 ` [PATCH 3/3] mingw: document the experimental standard handle redirection Johannes Schindelin
2017-10-30 18:58 ` Eric Sunshine
2017-10-31 17:08 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-11-01 4:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-01 16:37 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-11-02 1:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-02 17:20 ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2017-11-03 1:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-03 11:51 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-10-30 20:55 ` [PATCH 0/3] mingw: introduce a way to avoid std handle inheritance Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-31 5:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-31 17:12 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-10-31 18:09 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-11-01 17:07 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-11-01 17:17 ` Stefan Beller
2017-11-01 17:10 ` [PATCH v2 " Johannes Schindelin
2017-11-01 17:10 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] mingw: add experimental feature to redirect standard handles Johannes Schindelin
2017-11-01 17:10 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] mingw: optionally redirect stderr/stdout via the same handle Johannes Schindelin
2017-11-01 17:10 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] mingw: document the standard handle redirection Johannes Schindelin
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