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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>,
	Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Shawn Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/8] Hiding refs
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 23:26:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACBZZX6xLvuMEhPnfYLj8W9pMLwdoS7Zb+mTtn+3DanJPiWfXw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7v4nhpckwd.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:

Maybe this should be split up into a different thread, but:

> The upload-pack-2 service sits on a port different from today's
> [...].

I think there's a simpler way to do this, which is that:

 * New clients supporting v2 of the protocol send some piece of data
   that would break old servers.

 * If that fails the new client goes "oh jeeze, I guess it's an old
   server", and try again with the old protocol.

 * The client then saves a date (or the version the server gave us)
   indicating that it tried the new protocol on that remote, tries
   again sometime later.

We already covered in previous discussions how this would be simpler
with the HTTP protocol, since you could just send an extra header
inviting the server to speak the new protocol.

But for the other transports we can just try the new protocol and
retry with the old one as a fallback if it doesn't work. That'll allow
us to gracefully migrate without needing to change the git:// port.

Besides, I think the vast majority of users are using Git via http://
or ssh://, where we can't just change the port, but even so making
people change the port when we could handle this more gracefully would
be a big PITA. Adding new firewall holes is often a big bureaucratic
nightmare in some organizations.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-02-06 22:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-30 18:45 [PATCH v3 0/8] Hiding refs Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] upload-pack: share more code Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] upload-pack: simplify request validation Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] upload/receive-pack: allow hiding ref hierarchies Junio C Hamano
2013-02-05  8:50   ` Jeff King
2013-02-05 15:45     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-06 11:31       ` Jeff King
2013-02-06 15:57         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] parse_fetch_refspec(): clarify the codeflow a bit Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] fetch: use struct ref to represent refs to be fetched Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] upload-pack: optionally allow fetching from the tips of hidden refs Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] fetch: fetch objects by their exact SHA-1 object names Junio C Hamano
2013-02-05  9:19   ` Jeff King
2013-02-05 11:18     ` Jeff King
2013-02-05 15:55     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] WIP: receive.allowupdatestohidden Junio C Hamano
2013-02-05  8:04 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] Hiding refs Michael Haggerty
2013-02-05  8:33   ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-02-05 10:29     ` Michael Haggerty
2013-02-05 17:38       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-06 10:34       ` Duy Nguyen
2013-02-06 19:17         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-06 19:45           ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-02-06 21:50           ` Michael Haggerty
2013-02-06 22:12             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-06 22:26           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2013-02-07  0:12             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-07  0:16               ` Jeff King
2013-02-07 10:30                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2013-02-07 18:25                 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-02-23  2:44               ` Duy Nguyen
2014-03-11  1:49                 ` Jeff King
2014-03-11 19:32                   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-03-11 20:05                     ` Jeff King
2014-03-11 20:25                       ` Junio C Hamano
2014-03-11 20:36                         ` Jeff King
2014-03-14 12:37                           ` Duy Nguyen
2014-03-14 16:45                             ` Shawn Pearce
2014-03-14 23:30                               ` Duy Nguyen
2014-03-15  0:09                                 ` Shawn Pearce
2014-03-18  4:17                                   ` Jeff King
2014-03-18 14:27                                     ` Duy Nguyen
2014-03-18 14:36                                       ` Duy Nguyen
2014-03-15  1:23                   ` Duy Nguyen
2014-03-18  4:18                     ` Jeff King
2013-02-06 22:56           ` Jeff King
2013-02-05 17:36     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-05 17:27   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-06 10:17     ` Michael Haggerty
2013-02-06 19:55       ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-02-06 22:01         ` Michael Haggerty
2013-02-07 15:58       ` Jed Brown
2013-02-09 23:23         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-10  4:45           ` Jed Brown

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