From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
Shawn Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/8] Hiding refs
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 09:27:31 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7v8v72u0vw.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5110BD18.3080608@alum.mit.edu> (Michael Haggerty's message of "Tue, 05 Feb 2013 09:04:40 +0100")
Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu> writes:
> I would again like to express my discomfort about this feature, which is
> already listed as "will merge to next".
Do not take "will merge to next" too literally. One major purpose
of marking a topic as such is exactly to solicit comments like this
;-)
> * I didn't see a response to Peff's convincing arguments that this
> should be a client-side feature rather than a server-side feature [1].
Uncluttering is not about a choice client should make. "delayed
advertisement" is an orthogonal issue and requires a larger protocol
update (it needs to make "git fetch" speak first instead of the
current protocol in which "upload-pack" speaks first).
> * I didn't see an answer to Duy's question [2] about what is different
> between the proposed feature and gitnamespaces.
I think Jonathan addressed this already.
> * I didn't see a response to my worries that this feature could be
> abused [3].
You can choose not to advertise allow-tip-sha1-in-want capability; I
do not think it is making things worse than the status quo.
> * Why should a repository have exactly one setting for what refs should
> be hidden? Wouldn't it make more sense to allow multiple "views" to be
> defined?:
You are welcome to extend to have different views, but how would
your clients express which view they would want?
Giving a single view that the serving end decides gives us an
immediate benefit of showing an uncluttered set of refs of server's
choice, without making the problem space larger than necessary.
> * Is it enough to support only reference exclusion (as opposed to
> exclusion and inclusion rules)?
Again, I do not think you cannot extend it to do positive and
negative filtering "exclude these, but include those even though
they match the 'exclude these' patterns I gave you earlier".
> * Why should this feature only be available remotely?
The whole point is to give the server side a choice to show selected
refs, so that it can use hidden portion for its own use. These refs
should not be hidden from local operations like "gc".
I appreciate the comments, but I do not think any point you raised
in this message is very much relevant as objections.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-05 17:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-30 18:45 [PATCH v3 0/8] Hiding refs Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] upload-pack: share more code Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] upload-pack: simplify request validation Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] upload/receive-pack: allow hiding ref hierarchies Junio C Hamano
2013-02-05 8:50 ` Jeff King
2013-02-05 15:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-06 11:31 ` Jeff King
2013-02-06 15:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] parse_fetch_refspec(): clarify the codeflow a bit Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] fetch: use struct ref to represent refs to be fetched Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] upload-pack: optionally allow fetching from the tips of hidden refs Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] fetch: fetch objects by their exact SHA-1 object names Junio C Hamano
2013-02-05 9:19 ` Jeff King
2013-02-05 11:18 ` Jeff King
2013-02-05 15:55 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] WIP: receive.allowupdatestohidden Junio C Hamano
2013-02-05 8:04 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] Hiding refs Michael Haggerty
2013-02-05 8:33 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-02-05 10:29 ` Michael Haggerty
2013-02-05 17:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-06 10:34 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-02-06 19:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-06 19:45 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-02-06 21:50 ` Michael Haggerty
2013-02-06 22:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-06 22:26 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2013-02-07 0:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-07 0:16 ` Jeff King
2013-02-07 10:30 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2013-02-07 18:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-02-23 2:44 ` Duy Nguyen
2014-03-11 1:49 ` Jeff King
2014-03-11 19:32 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-03-11 20:05 ` Jeff King
2014-03-11 20:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-03-11 20:36 ` Jeff King
2014-03-14 12:37 ` Duy Nguyen
2014-03-14 16:45 ` Shawn Pearce
2014-03-14 23:30 ` Duy Nguyen
2014-03-15 0:09 ` Shawn Pearce
2014-03-18 4:17 ` Jeff King
2014-03-18 14:27 ` Duy Nguyen
2014-03-18 14:36 ` Duy Nguyen
2014-03-15 1:23 ` Duy Nguyen
2014-03-18 4:18 ` Jeff King
2013-02-06 22:56 ` Jeff King
2013-02-05 17:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-05 17:27 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2013-02-06 10:17 ` Michael Haggerty
2013-02-06 19:55 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-02-06 22:01 ` Michael Haggerty
2013-02-07 15:58 ` Jed Brown
2013-02-09 23:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-10 4:45 ` Jed Brown
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