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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Duy Nguyen" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	"Michael Haggerty" <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>,
	"Jonathan Nieder" <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Shawn Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/8] Hiding refs
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 19:16:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130207001635.GA29318@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vmwvh9e3p.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 04:12:10PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > I think there's a simpler way to do this, which is that:
> >
> >  * New clients supporting v2 of the protocol send some piece of data
> >    that would break old servers.
> >
> >  * If that fails the new client goes "oh jeeze, I guess it's an old
> >    server", and try again with the old protocol.
> >
> >  * The client then saves a date (or the version the server gave us)
> >    indicating that it tried the new protocol on that remote, tries
> >    again sometime later.
> 
> For that to work, the new server needs to wait for the client to
> speak first.  How would that server handle old clients who expect to
> be spoken first?  Wait with a read timeout (no timeout is the right
> timeout for everybody)?

If the new client can handle the old-style server's response, then the
server can start blasting out refs (optionally after a timeout) and stop
when the client interrupts with "hey, wait, I can speak the new
protocol". The server just has to include "you can interrupt me" in its
capability advertisement (obviously it would have to send out at least
the first ref with the capabilities before the timeout).

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-07  0:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-30 18:45 [PATCH v3 0/8] Hiding refs Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] upload-pack: share more code Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] upload-pack: simplify request validation Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] upload/receive-pack: allow hiding ref hierarchies Junio C Hamano
2013-02-05  8:50   ` Jeff King
2013-02-05 15:45     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-06 11:31       ` Jeff King
2013-02-06 15:57         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] parse_fetch_refspec(): clarify the codeflow a bit Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] fetch: use struct ref to represent refs to be fetched Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] upload-pack: optionally allow fetching from the tips of hidden refs Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] fetch: fetch objects by their exact SHA-1 object names Junio C Hamano
2013-02-05  9:19   ` Jeff King
2013-02-05 11:18     ` Jeff King
2013-02-05 15:55     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-01-30 18:45 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] WIP: receive.allowupdatestohidden Junio C Hamano
2013-02-05  8:04 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] Hiding refs Michael Haggerty
2013-02-05  8:33   ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-02-05 10:29     ` Michael Haggerty
2013-02-05 17:38       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-06 10:34       ` Duy Nguyen
2013-02-06 19:17         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-06 19:45           ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-02-06 21:50           ` Michael Haggerty
2013-02-06 22:12             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-06 22:26           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2013-02-07  0:12             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-07  0:16               ` Jeff King [this message]
2013-02-07 10:30                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2013-02-07 18:25                 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-02-23  2:44               ` Duy Nguyen
2014-03-11  1:49                 ` Jeff King
2014-03-11 19:32                   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-03-11 20:05                     ` Jeff King
2014-03-11 20:25                       ` Junio C Hamano
2014-03-11 20:36                         ` Jeff King
2014-03-14 12:37                           ` Duy Nguyen
2014-03-14 16:45                             ` Shawn Pearce
2014-03-14 23:30                               ` Duy Nguyen
2014-03-15  0:09                                 ` Shawn Pearce
2014-03-18  4:17                                   ` Jeff King
2014-03-18 14:27                                     ` Duy Nguyen
2014-03-18 14:36                                       ` Duy Nguyen
2014-03-15  1:23                   ` Duy Nguyen
2014-03-18  4:18                     ` Jeff King
2013-02-06 22:56           ` Jeff King
2013-02-05 17:36     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-05 17:27   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-06 10:17     ` Michael Haggerty
2013-02-06 19:55       ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-02-06 22:01         ` Michael Haggerty
2013-02-07 15:58       ` Jed Brown
2013-02-09 23:23         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-02-10  4:45           ` Jed Brown

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