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From: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] repo-settings: fix checking for fetch.negotiationAlgorithm=default
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 13:47:26 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABPp-BGRPOdhqV0uXGR2YfroB5Q3K2C6DiQqCdAbG4Xoi2-d9A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <220131.864k5jbo5h.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 1:17 PM Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
<avarab@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 31 2022, Elijah Newren wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 8:57 AM Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com> writes:
> >>
> >> >> I.e. =default should always be equivalent to not declaring that config
> >> >> at all anywhere, and not drift to being a reference to some name that
> >> >> happens to be "default", as in the GNOME case.
> >> >
> >> > No, we have the same problem as the Gnome case.  See this part of the
> >> > documentation for fetch.negotiationAlgorithm:
> >> >
> >> > """
> >> >     The default is "default" which instructs Git to use the
> >> >     default algorithm that never skips commits (unless the server has
> >> >     acknowledged it or one of its descendants).
> >> > """
> >>
> >> That looks more like one of the bugs introduced when skipping was
> >> turned on for the "experimental" folks.  To fix this, without
> >> turning skipping into the default too hastily, there needs two and
> >> half things to happen:
> >>
> >>  * Give a new name for the non-skipping algorithm, and describe the
> >>    algorithm like the above.
> >>
> >>  * Describe "default" is "non-skipping" but "feature.experimental"
> >>    makes "skipping" the default.
> >>
> >>  * Support "non-skipping" in the configuration parser, so that even
> >>    when something else becomes the default, people can choose it.
> >>
> >> I would think.
> >
> > Sounds good to me.  I'm not very creative, so I think I'd just use
> > "non-skipping" as the new name.
>
> I can't think of a better one either (aside from my already-suggested
> "exhaustive"), but that's naming it in terms of the only other
> negotiator.
>
> Is it the case that the only thing anyone would want to tweak about the
> default one is its skipping behavior?
>
> E.g. if we were to make one called "smart-topology" or something (would
> skip sending some OIDs by assuming things about branch/tag topology,
> i.e. if you have X that probably includes Y) having negotiators "A",
> "non-A", and "C" would be odd :)
>
> We're unlikely to change the "default" negotiatior behavior at this
> point, so maybe some label that communicates "the old one" without
> implying deprecation? Perhaps "classic"?

Oh, sorry for forgetting your "exhaustive" suggestion; sometimes
weekends do that to you.  I actually like that suggestion of yours a
bit better.  classic could also work.

Maybe Jonathan also has ideas/preferences, since he wrote the "skipping" code?

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-31 21:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-28  1:56 [PATCH] repo-settings: fix checking for fetch.negotiationAlgorithm=default Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-01-28  7:25 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-29  1:40   ` Elijah Newren
2022-01-29  6:08     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-31 16:57     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-31 17:33       ` Elijah Newren
2022-01-31 21:03         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-31 21:47           ` Elijah Newren [this message]
2022-02-01 17:37             ` Jonathan Tan
2022-01-31 22:06           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-29 17:51 ` [PATCH v2] " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-02-01 17:00   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-02-01 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-02-01 18:21       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-01 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] repo-settings: fix error handling for unknown values Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-02-01 18:21       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-01 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] repo-settings: name the default fetch.negotiationAlgorithm 'consecutive' Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-02-01 18:35       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-02  3:42     ` [PATCH v4 0/3] repo-settings: fix checking for fetch.negotiationAlgorithm=default Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-02-02  3:42       ` [PATCH v4 1/3] " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-02-02  3:42       ` [PATCH v4 2/3] repo-settings: fix error handling for unknown values Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-02-02  3:42       ` [PATCH v4 3/3] repo-settings: rename the traditional default fetch.negotiationAlgorithm Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-02-02 17:50         ` Junio C Hamano

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