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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] repo-settings: fix checking for fetch.negotiationAlgorithm=default
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 22:03:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <220131.864k5jbo5h.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPp-BHcS3nwupJSORUuVeVhGzrL3VqPm4YQSr7G-JuyLaqBpQ@mail.gmail.com>


On Mon, Jan 31 2022, Elijah Newren wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 8:57 AM Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>> Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> >> I.e. =default should always be equivalent to not declaring that config
>> >> at all anywhere, and not drift to being a reference to some name that
>> >> happens to be "default", as in the GNOME case.
>> >
>> > No, we have the same problem as the Gnome case.  See this part of the
>> > documentation for fetch.negotiationAlgorithm:
>> >
>> > """
>> >     The default is "default" which instructs Git to use the
>> >     default algorithm that never skips commits (unless the server has
>> >     acknowledged it or one of its descendants).
>> > """
>>
>> That looks more like one of the bugs introduced when skipping was
>> turned on for the "experimental" folks.  To fix this, without
>> turning skipping into the default too hastily, there needs two and
>> half things to happen:
>>
>>  * Give a new name for the non-skipping algorithm, and describe the
>>    algorithm like the above.
>>
>>  * Describe "default" is "non-skipping" but "feature.experimental"
>>    makes "skipping" the default.
>>
>>  * Support "non-skipping" in the configuration parser, so that even
>>    when something else becomes the default, people can choose it.
>>
>> I would think.
>
> Sounds good to me.  I'm not very creative, so I think I'd just use
> "non-skipping" as the new name.

I can't think of a better one either (aside from my already-suggested
"exhaustive"), but that's naming it in terms of the only other
negotiator.

Is it the case that the only thing anyone would want to tweak about the
default one is its skipping behavior?

E.g. if we were to make one called "smart-topology" or something (would
skip sending some OIDs by assuming things about branch/tag topology,
i.e. if you have X that probably includes Y) having negotiators "A",
"non-A", and "C" would be odd :)

We're unlikely to change the "default" negotiatior behavior at this
point, so maybe some label that communicates "the old one" without
implying deprecation? Perhaps "classic"?


  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-31 21:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-28  1:56 [PATCH] repo-settings: fix checking for fetch.negotiationAlgorithm=default Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-01-28  7:25 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-29  1:40   ` Elijah Newren
2022-01-29  6:08     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-31 16:57     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-31 17:33       ` Elijah Newren
2022-01-31 21:03         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2022-01-31 21:47           ` Elijah Newren
2022-02-01 17:37             ` Jonathan Tan
2022-01-31 22:06           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-29 17:51 ` [PATCH v2] " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-02-01 17:00   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-02-01 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-02-01 18:21       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-01 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] repo-settings: fix error handling for unknown values Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-02-01 18:21       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-01 17:00     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] repo-settings: name the default fetch.negotiationAlgorithm 'consecutive' Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-02-01 18:35       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-02  3:42     ` [PATCH v4 0/3] repo-settings: fix checking for fetch.negotiationAlgorithm=default Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-02-02  3:42       ` [PATCH v4 1/3] " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-02-02  3:42       ` [PATCH v4 2/3] repo-settings: fix error handling for unknown values Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-02-02  3:42       ` [PATCH v4 3/3] repo-settings: rename the traditional default fetch.negotiationAlgorithm Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-02-02 17:50         ` Junio C Hamano

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