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From: Erik Faye-Lund <kusmabite@gmail.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Marcin Cieslak <saper@saper.info>,
	Jens Lehmann <Jens.Lehmann@web.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 15/17] po/is.po: add Icelandic translation
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:49:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=4U2_ascHbC77Rbrb8FGtT7hiOr0MUqfbeWztS@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin5+Sdx3MRrERpFUD04=CSmNyPoB3zRvNxKLLpj@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
<avarab@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 19:14, Erik Faye-Lund <kusmabite@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
>> <avarab@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 15:29, Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> --- a/po/is.po
>>>>> +++ b/po/is.po
>>>>> @@ -11,35 +11,154 @@ msgstr ""
>>>>>  "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n"
>>>>>  "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n"
>>>>>
>>>>> -#: t/t0200/test.c:4
>>>>> +#: builtin/init-db.c:34
>>>>
>>>> Is there a diff driver that will ignore these --add-location lines?
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively, would it be possible to get msgmerge and xgettext to
>>>> provide the filenames without the line numbers?  My experience is
>>>> that most translation diffs are very hard to read because about 80%
>>>> noise. :(
>>>>
>>>> Aside from that, this looks good and sane (well, the English part
>>>> I can read does).
>>>
>>> Some context, an earlier discussion on this:
>>> http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/git/2010/5/30/31415/thread#mid-31415
>>>
>>
>> msgmerge and xgettext does seem to have the --no-location flag to
>> avoid these annotations from being generated. The documentation does
>> say "Note that using this option makes it harder for technically
>> skilled translators to understand each message's context. ", though.
>> But perhaps the annotated versions could be generated when needed and
>> never checked-in (similar to what you suggested in that e-mail)? It
>> sounds to me like that would give us the best of all worlds. If it's
>> possible, that is.
>
> It's certainly possible. But each time you worked with these files
> you'd have add the line numbers yourself to generate the context, then
> translate, then remove them again, then submit your patch.
>
> I just think it's overly tedious work for getting smaller diffs.
>

You know, computers are pretty good at automating tedious jobs ;)

I was thinking something along the lines of having po/is.po etc, and
generating po/is.ann.po (or something) from these (+source) so
translators can see the text in the context of the code. That is, they
edit is.po, and generate is.ann.po when they want to see the context.
Then we can put *.ann.po in .gitignore, and it's really just a matter
of editing, doing "make po/is.ann.po", and voila.

But I dunno, I haven't been using these tools much myself.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-31 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-30 21:28 [PATCH/RFC 00/17] Begin gettextizing Git Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-30 21:28 ` [PATCH/RFC 01/17] Makefile: A variable for options used by xgettext(1) calls Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-31 14:51   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-31 16:36     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-30 21:28 ` [PATCH/RFC 02/17] Makefile: provide a --msgid-bugs-address to xgettext(1) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-30 21:28 ` [PATCH/RFC 03/17] Makefile: tell xgettext(1) that our source is in UTF-8 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-30 21:28 ` [PATCH/RFC 04/17] builtin.h: Include gettext.h Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-30 21:28 ` [PATCH/RFC 05/17] gettext: make the simple parts of git-init localizable Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-31 15:03   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-31 15:37     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-31 15:44       ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-31 16:05         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-31 16:09           ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-31 16:27           ` Junio C Hamano
2010-08-30 21:28 ` [PATCH/RFC 06/17] gettext: localize the main git-init message Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-31 15:10   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-31 15:39     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-31 15:48       ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-30 21:28 ` [PATCH/RFC 07/17] gettext.c: work around us not using setlocale(LC_CTYPE, "") Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-31 15:18   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-31 15:37     ` Marcin Cieslak
2010-08-31 15:49       ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-31 16:51     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-31 22:45       ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-31 22:58         ` Erik Faye-Lund
2010-08-30 21:28 ` [PATCH/RFC 08/17] gettext tests: test if $VERSION exists before using it Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-30 21:28 ` [PATCH/RFC 09/17] gettext tests: update test/is.po to match t/t0200/test.c Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-30 21:28 ` [PATCH/RFC 10/17] gettext tests: add detection for is_IS.ISO-8859-1 locale Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-30 21:28 ` [PATCH/RFC 11/17] gettext tests: test message re-encoding under Shell Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-30 21:28 ` [PATCH/RFC 12/17] gettext tests: test re-encoding with a UTF-8 msgid " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-30 21:28 ` [PATCH/RFC 13/17] gettext tests: mark a test message as not needing translation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-30 21:28 ` [PATCH/RFC 14/17] po/is.po: msgmerge and add Language: header Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-30 21:28 ` [PATCH/RFC 15/17] po/is.po: add Icelandic translation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-31 15:29   ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-31 17:01     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-31 19:14       ` Erik Faye-Lund
2010-08-31 19:32         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-31 19:49           ` Erik Faye-Lund [this message]
2010-08-30 21:28 ` [PATCH/RFC 16/17] po/pl.po: add Polish translation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-30 21:28 ` [PATCH/RFC 17/17] gettext tests: test message re-encoding under C Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-30 21:42 ` [PATCH/RFC 00/17] Begin gettextizing Git Junio C Hamano
2010-08-31  9:02   ` [PATCH] gettext: Make NO_GETTEXT=YesPlease the default in releases Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-31 17:18   ` [PATCH/RFC 00/17] Begin gettextizing Git Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-31 18:08     ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-31 18:24       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-31 19:22         ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-31 19:35           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-31 19:42             ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-31 11:08 ` Peter Krefting
2010-08-31 11:42   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-31 11:48     ` Peter Krefting
2010-08-31 12:02     ` Matthieu Moy
2010-08-31 12:43       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-08-31 15:32 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-08-31 16:05   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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