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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Thomas Rast <trast@inf.ethz.ch>
Cc: Andrew Ardill <andrew.ardill@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	opticyclic <opticyclic@gmail.com>, <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Why Is There No Bug Tracker And Why Are Patches Sent Instead Of Pull Requests
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 09:10:39 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vmx80nt68.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8762eoimp0.fsf@thomas.inf.ethz.ch> (Thomas Rast's message of "Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:29:31 +0100")

Thomas Rast <trast@inf.ethz.ch> writes:

> Nevertheless, AFAIK it has never been used for "real work", so you may
> want to look into why that happened, and do something different.

Hrm, I totally forgot about that site while we were discussing this
yesterday.  We only see three "issues" there, and that shows nobody
bothered to register issues, and it is very understandable.  People who
read the list know that all communication that is important to Git happen
here, and it will be an additional burden for reporters if they have to go
there (be it Jan's site, Andrew's one, or the issue system at GitHub for
that matter) and put what you already have posted.  People who do not read
the list had no chance knowing about Jan's site to begin with, given that
even I didn't immediately remember.

Also more importantly, the issues posted here are picked up and acted on
reasonably quickly---it often is more than "reasonably" quickly and I
often find myself looking at a new initial report, analysis of the problem
and a tested patch in a single thread, when I check my mailbox the morning.

Such an issue won't hit the tracker, and neither the initial reporter nor
the developers who responded should not do a lot of extra work to get the
thread in a "bug tracker" system.

Something based on the idea mentioned in Ævar's message (downstream in
this thread) to seamlessly integrate with the e-mail traffic might have a
chance to succeed.  I also think the integration must be two-way for it to
be useful.  A summary of "new issues untouched for N weeks" and another
"older issues unclosed for N weeks" periodically sent here, or something.

Perhaps collecting messages based on a handful of simple heuristics like
"A message mentioned the keyword 'bug', but no In-Reply-To for it from any
list regulars came in two weeks" might be a good place to start.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-03-01 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-29 17:19 Why Is There No Bug Tracker And Why Are Patches Sent Instead Of Pull Requests opticyclic
2012-02-29 18:23 ` Brian Gernhardt
2012-02-29 18:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-02-29 22:53   ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-02-29 23:58     ` Andrew Ardill
2012-03-01  0:37       ` Greg Troxel
2012-03-01  0:45         ` Andrew Ardill
2012-03-01  0:50           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-01  1:05             ` Andrew Ardill
2012-03-01  1:05           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-01  1:20             ` Andrew Ardill
2012-03-01  5:16           ` Miles Bader
2012-03-01  5:40             ` Andrew Ardill
2012-03-01 16:52         ` Scott Chacon
2012-03-01 20:23           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-01 11:29       ` Thomas Rast
2012-03-01 11:54         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2012-03-01 12:46           ` Andrew Ardill
2012-03-01 12:28         ` Andrew Ardill
2012-03-01 17:10         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2012-03-02  4:03           ` Neal Kreitzinger
2012-03-02  4:19             ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-03-02  4:21               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-02  5:50               ` Neal Kreitzinger
2012-03-02  6:25                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-03-02  7:03                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-02 14:18                   ` Andreas Ericsson
2012-03-02 16:45                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-07  8:03                       ` Andrew Ardill
2012-03-07  9:52                         ` Vincent van Ravesteijn
2012-03-07 13:04                   ` Joern Huxhorn
2012-03-07 13:53                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-03-07 14:47                       ` Joern Huxhorn
2012-03-07 15:08                     ` Pau Garcia i Quiles
2012-03-07 17:18                   ` Phil Hord
2012-02-29 19:18 ` Carlos Martín Nieto
2012-02-29 21:37 ` Sitaram Chamarty

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