From: Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: Son Luong Ngoc <sluongng@gmail.com>,
Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org, Raxel Gutierrez <raxelgutierrez09@gmail.com>,
mricon@kernel.org, patchwork@lists.ozlabs.org,
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>,
Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>
Subject: Re: Pain points in Git's patch flow
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 07:21:38 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210428072138.GB13114@dcvr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o8e82b4p.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com>
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 19 2021, Eric Wong wrote:
> > Son Luong Ngoc <sluongng@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> [...]
> >> 3. Isssue with archive:
> >>
> >> - I don't find the ML archive trivial for new comers. It took me a bit
> >> of time to realize: 'Oh if I scroll to bottom and find the "Thread
> >> overview" then I can navigate a mailing thread a lot easier'.
> >
> > (I'm the maintainer of public-inbox, the archival software you
> > seem to be referring to).
> >
> > I'm not sure how to make "Thread overview" easier to find
> > without cluttering the display near the top. Maybe I'll try
> > aria labels in the Subject: link...
>
> I'd say the bare-bones style of it is probably jarring to most users
> today. I had to check if the site even had any CSS at all.
>
> I.e. I think a more intuitive UI to users today would probably be some
> collapsible side-bar on the left of the screen, which would have a
> threaded view. The "Archives are clonable" would probably belong in some
> "help" tab in such a UI.
The plan is to support read-only JMAP, so it's a stable API that
users can build their own displays on top of (of course, NNTP
and IMAP support already exists).
I can't make drastic UI changes such as a sidebar without
breaking things for users who like the current UI. I only know
about GNOME3 and Digg because they made drastic UI changes that
angered their existing userbase.
The current UI is designed to for a terminal with w3m|lynx since
it's the lowest common denominator. Graphics drivers/stacks
seem to be most frequently broken thing on GNU/Linux systems, so
it's important users can find patches/configs/help easily with a
text-only browser in order to get graphics working.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-04-28 7:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-04-14 6:13 Pain points in Git's patch flow Jonathan Nieder
2021-04-14 7:22 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-04-14 8:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-14 21:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-15 8:49 ` Denton Liu
2021-04-15 6:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-15 15:45 ` Son Luong Ngoc
2021-04-19 2:57 ` Eric Wong
2021-04-19 13:35 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-04-21 10:19 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-28 7:21 ` Eric Wong [this message]
2021-04-28 7:05 ` Eric Wong
2021-04-15 18:25 ` Atharva Raykar
2021-04-16 19:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-16 20:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-02 5:35 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-04-18 8:29 ` Sebastian Schuberth
2021-04-18 20:54 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-19 2:58 ` Eric Wong
2021-04-19 5:54 ` Sebastian Schuberth
2021-04-19 6:04 ` Sebastian Schuberth
2021-04-19 8:26 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-19 19:23 ` Sebastian Schuberth
2021-04-19 22:34 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-04-20 6:30 ` Sebastian Schuberth
2021-04-20 16:37 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-04-30 20:45 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-04-20 10:34 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-19 19:36 ` Eric Wong
2021-04-19 19:49 ` Sebastian Schuberth
2021-04-19 22:00 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-05-08 2:10 ` dwh
2021-04-19 21:49 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-04-19 23:03 ` Stephen Smith
2021-05-08 2:08 ` dwh
2021-05-08 4:41 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-04-30 20:58 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-04-21 4:46 ` Daniel Axtens
2021-04-26 2:04 ` brian m. carlson
2021-04-26 14:24 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-04-26 14:36 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-28 7:59 ` Eric Wong
2021-04-28 22:44 ` brian m. carlson
2021-04-30 20:16 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-04-30 20:35 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-04-30 21:09 ` Felipe Contreras
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