From: Junio C Hamano <email@example.com> To: Jonathan Nieder <firstname.lastname@example.org> Cc: email@example.com, Raxel Gutierrez <firstname.lastname@example.org>, email@example.com, firstname.lastname@example.org, Taylor Blau <email@example.com>, Emily Shaffer <firstname.lastname@example.org>, ZheNing Hu <email@example.com> Subject: Re: Pain points in Git's patch flow Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 12:50:03 -0700 [thread overview] Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <YHaIBvl6Mf7ztJB3@google.com> (Jonathan Nieder's message of "Tue, 13 Apr 2021 23:13:26 -0700") Jonathan Nieder <email@example.com> writes: > 3. Do you think patchwork goes in a direction that is likely to help > with these? So here is a real-life example. Let's say somebody is looking at a "gentle ping" [*1*] znh> The patch seems to have fallen into the crack. zhn> Jeff and Junio, willing to help? How would we figure out what happened to the patch today without visiting patchwork would be: 1. Visit the message at lore.kernel.org/git/ [*1*] 2. Notice that it is a response to a message, and click the link to be taken to [*2*] 3. Notice that nobody commented on the patch. 4. Type "f:zhening ref-filter" to the search box and search, with suspicion that this was an updated version of something. 5. Click one of them in the result [*3*] 6. This time, we can tell that this seemed to have had two earlier iterations, and after reading the discussion through, the last one changed the course in a major way. Not just a new helper introduced in the earlier rounds has gone away, but an existing helper got removed. 7. All comments in the discussion for the earlier two rounds can be read as supporting the new direction the latest round takes. 8. The fact remains that even if the direction has been endorsed (see 7. above) nobody took a look at the implementation for the latest round. 9. Make the final verdict. I use my newsreader to do pretty much the equivalent of the above without hitting https://lore.kernel.org/git/ but the above is written to use the web interface, in order to make it reproducible more easily by anybody on the list. Now, how can patchwork improve the above reviewer experience, out of the box and possibly with new helpe rools around it? I can see #3 would immediately become obvious, and I hope #4-#5 would become unnecessary. Anything else? At steps #6 and #7, there is human judgment involved that may not be automatable, but would there be some mechanism to make it easy to help these steps if the user visits patchwork (instead of staying in my newsreader or web interface to the lore archive)? I am of course not expecting to automate step #9 ;-) It would be nice though. Thanks. [References] *1* https://lore.kernel.org/git/CAOLTT8Tis5Yjg8UR0c-i0BnqiFQvLXvDgxUQJ-WcP6jjQPu9cQ@mail.gmail.com/ *2* https://firstname.lastname@example.org/ *3* https://email@example.com/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-04-16 19:50 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2021-04-14 6:13 Jonathan Nieder 2021-04-14 7:22 ` Bagas Sanjaya 2021-04-14 8:02 ` Junio C Hamano 2021-04-14 21:42 ` Junio C Hamano 2021-04-15 8:49 ` Denton Liu 2021-04-15 6:06 ` Junio C Hamano 2021-04-15 15:45 ` Son Luong Ngoc 2021-04-19 2:57 ` Eric Wong 2021-04-19 13:35 ` Theodore Ts'o 2021-04-21 10:19 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2021-04-28 7:21 ` Eric Wong 2021-04-28 7:05 ` Eric Wong 2021-04-15 18:25 ` Atharva Raykar 2021-04-16 19:50 ` Junio C Hamano [this message] 2021-04-16 20:25 ` Junio C Hamano 2021-05-02 5:35 ` ZheNing Hu 2021-04-18 8:29 ` Sebastian Schuberth 2021-04-18 20:54 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2021-04-19 2:58 ` Eric Wong 2021-04-19 5:54 ` Sebastian Schuberth 2021-04-19 6:04 ` Sebastian Schuberth 2021-04-19 8:26 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2021-04-19 19:23 ` Sebastian Schuberth 2021-04-19 22:34 ` Theodore Ts'o 2021-04-20 6:30 ` Sebastian Schuberth 2021-04-20 16:37 ` Theodore Ts'o 2021-04-30 20:45 ` Felipe Contreras 2021-04-20 10:34 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2021-04-19 19:36 ` Eric Wong 2021-04-19 19:49 ` Sebastian Schuberth 2021-04-19 22:00 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev 2021-05-08 2:10 ` dwh 2021-04-19 21:49 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev 2021-04-19 23:03 ` Stephen Smith 2021-05-08 2:08 ` dwh 2021-05-08 4:41 ` Bagas Sanjaya 2021-04-30 20:58 ` Felipe Contreras 2021-04-21 4:46 ` Daniel Axtens 2021-04-26 2:04 ` brian m. carlson 2021-04-26 14:24 ` Theodore Ts'o 2021-04-26 14:36 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2021-04-28 7:59 ` Eric Wong 2021-04-28 22:44 ` brian m. carlson 2021-04-30 20:16 ` Felipe Contreras 2021-04-30 20:35 ` Felipe Contreras 2021-04-30 21:09 ` Felipe Contreras
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