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From: Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Oleg <lego_12239@rambler.ru>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Consensus on a new default branch name
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:32:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200616173227.inexk4clqilojg36@chatter.i7.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200616171048.GA18874@legohost>

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 08:11:01PM +0300, Oleg wrote:
> > I think it's clear that this _is_ a politically-driven change. It is 
> > not
> > helping the software in any technical way to change the name. The
> 
> Yes. You are absolutely right.
> 
> > question is whether the more abstract benefits to people are worth the
> > potential costs.
> 
> Of course, not. This is obvious.

Oleg, that doesn't make it an invalid discussion point. If Git was 
written in German and the lead branch was called "refs/heads/fuhrer" 
(German word for "leader"), you'd be on the opposite side of the 
barricades arguing that this needs to be changed because it's offensive 
to many people whose immediate family members died in WW2.

And someone else would be reasonably pointing out that "fuhrer" doesn't 
mean "The Fuhrer" and nobody is even alive since then anymore, and omg, 
why is this even a discussion topic -- isn't there something more 
important everyone could work on?

Yes, it's a politically motivated change, but it's clearly important to 
quite a few people right now and their views should not be disregarded.

-K

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-16 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-15 20:57 Consensus on a new default branch name Taylor Blau
2020-06-15 21:10 ` Santiago Torres Arias
2020-06-15 21:21 ` Taylor Blau
2020-06-16 14:31   ` Jeff King
2020-06-16 14:52     ` Oleg
2020-06-16 16:00       ` Jeff King
2020-06-16 17:11         ` Oleg
2020-06-16 17:32           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev [this message]
2020-06-16 18:54             ` Oleg
2020-06-16 22:18           ` Jeff King
2020-06-16 16:10     ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-16 16:13       ` Santiago Torres Arias
2020-06-16 16:48         ` Jeff King
2020-06-16 16:14       ` Jason Pyeron
2020-06-16 16:47       ` Jeff King
2020-06-16 17:44       ` Steve Litt
2020-06-16 19:00         ` Oleg
2020-06-17 18:06     ` Michal Suchánek
2020-07-01 17:31       ` Michal Suchánek
2020-07-01 21:57         ` Jeff King
2020-07-02 12:21           ` Whinis
2020-07-02 21:15             ` Philip Oakley
2020-07-02 21:59               ` Whinis
2020-07-02 22:47                 ` Philip Oakley
2020-07-02 23:08                   ` Whinis
2020-07-01 22:25         ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-06-15 22:38 ` Elijah Newren
2020-06-16 14:32   ` Jeff King
2020-06-17 20:13     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-15 23:24 ` brian m. carlson
2020-06-16  0:50 ` James Ramsay
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-06-16  1:58 Nomen Nescio
2020-06-16  2:22 ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-06-16  2:31   ` Taylor Blau
2020-06-16 14:38   ` Jeff King
2020-06-17  0:01 Anonymous Remailer (austria)

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