From: frederik@ofb.net
To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@crashcourse.ca>
Subject: Re: de-alphabetizing the documentation
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 16:21:47 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180706232147.GF6343@ofb.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180706213239.GA867@flurp.local> <20180706211828.GC6195@aiede.svl.corp.google.com>
Thank you Jonathan for signaling your willingness to adopt the
documentation philosophy I suggested. That's a quite valuable first
step. Unfortunately my contribution will have to be limited for the
moment to making this suggestion, as I am extraordinarily busy. I hope
it will not be too burdensome to add this item to your TODO list and
keep it there until a willing volunteer comes along.
For what it's worth, I made extensive changes to the Arch Wiki Git
article back in 2015, following an initial attempt of mine to
understand various tutorials. It was the most prominent wiki-based Git
documentation I could find at the time. The article has of course seen
numerous improvements since then.
I don't think that it's really important to find a "best" ordering for
commands or glossary terms; it's more a matter of finding someone who
is willing to take responsibility for choosing a reasonable ordering.
Presumably the head maintainer of this project could delegate the task
to a qualified volunteer, not a newbie like myself but not necessarily
someone with expert knowledge either. It's too bad that a policy of
not listing things alphabetically wasn't adopted from the beginning of
this project, but I guess that's life.
Thanks Eric for the pointer to "git help". This does indeed provide a
finer and better grouping than the man-page (but it also looks like
another candidate for de-alphabetization...!).
Many thanks,
Frederick
On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 02:18:28PM -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> Jonathan Nieder wrote:
>
> > Ideas? If you start with a proposal, we're happy to help refine it.
> > People in the #git channel on irc.freenode.net (wechat.freenode.net)
> > might also be useful for inspiration in coming up with a proposal.
>
> I meant to link to webchat.freenode.net. But
> https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/ may have been a better link to use
> anyway.
>
> Thanks and sorry for the noise,
> Jonathan
>
On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 05:32:39PM -0400, Eric Sunshine wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 02:16:00PM -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> > Frederick Eaton wrote:
> > > I wonder if someone familiar with Git could list the commands in an
> > > order which makes more sense for learning, for example in the order in
> > > which they were invented by Git developers,
> >
> > Alas, there are plenty of "Main porcelain commands", and I think that
> > is where your question comes from. It would be nicer to list just five
> > to start, say.
>
> "git help" makes some attempt at narrowing the list of porcelain
> commands likely to be used on an everyday basis (and it categorizes
> the list by general activity). Of the 21 commands listed, I use 14-16
> in pretty much every development session, so "git help" might be a
> good starting place for someone trying to figure out which commands to
> study, or for someone wishing to help focus the documentation a bit
> more for beginners.
>
> --- >8 ---
> $ git help
> usage: git ...
>
> These are common Git commands used in various situations:
>
> start a working area (see also: git help tutorial)
> clone Clone a repository into a new directory
> init Create an empty Git repository or reinitialize an existing one
>
> work on the current change (see also: git help everyday)
> add Add file contents to the index
> mv Move or rename a file, a directory, or a symlink
> reset Reset current HEAD to the specified state
> rm Remove files from the working tree and from the index
>
> examine the history and state (see also: git help revisions)
> bisect Use binary search to find the commit that introduced a bug
> grep Print lines matching a pattern
> log Show commit logs
> show Show various types of objects
> status Show the working tree status
>
> grow, mark and tweak your common history
> branch List, create, or delete branches
> checkout Switch branches or restore working tree files
> commit Record changes to the repository
> diff Show changes between commits, commit and working tree, etc
> merge Join two or more development histories together
> rebase Reapply commits on top of another base tip
> tag Create, list, delete or verify a tag object signed with GPG
>
> collaborate (see also: git help workflows)
> fetch Download objects and refs from another repository
> pull Fetch from and integrate with another repository or a local branch
> push Update remote refs along with associated objects
>
> 'git help -a' and 'git help -g' list available subcommands and some
> concept guides. See 'git help <command>' or 'git help <concept>'
> to read about a specific subcommand or concept.
> --- >8 ---
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-06 23:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-06 20:04 de-alphabetizing the documentation frederik
2018-07-06 21:16 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-06 21:18 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-06 23:21 ` frederik [this message]
2018-07-06 23:47 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-08 1:09 ` frederik
2018-07-24 19:52 ` frederik
2018-07-24 21:11 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-08-11 2:30 ` frederik
2018-08-13 18:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-02-19 17:54 ` [PATCH 0/1] de-alphabetize command list Frederick Eaton
2019-02-21 18:05 ` frederik
2019-03-11 9:04 ` frederik
2019-03-11 14:38 ` Jacob Keller
2019-02-19 17:54 ` [PATCH] Prioritize list of commands appearing in git(1), via command-list.txt. Don't invoke 'sort' in Documentation/cmd-list.perl Frederick Eaton
2018-07-07 4:25 ` de-alphabetizing the documentation Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-07-06 21:32 ` Eric Sunshine
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