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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: frederik@ofb.net
Cc: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@crashcourse.ca>
Subject: Re: de-alphabetizing the documentation
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 11:17:28 -0700
Message-ID: <xmqqva8e5dxj.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180811023036.GA19208@ofb.net> (frederik's message of "Fri, 10 Aug 2018 19:30:36 -0700")

frederik@ofb.net writes:

> Hi Jonathan and Git developers,
>
> I poked around today and figured out how to reorder the command
> listings in the manual page, they are taken from git/command-list.txt
> so I just reorder the lines in that file (after disabling sorting in
> git/Documentation/cmd-list.perl).
>
> I haven't reordered the whole list yet. I could only get one computer
> friend to send me his subcommand frequencies from his shell history. I
> reordered the commands partly based on that, and partly based on their
> order of occurrence in the various tutorial man pages.

There are two good things about a list that is alphabetical.  One is
that you can scan with your eyes and a finger to find what you are
looking for more quickly.  The other is that it is mechanical so we
won't waste time on bickering whose frequency table is more correct,
whether frequency table is a good approach to derive a better order
(than, say, the order in which the commands appear in an every-day
workflow) to begin with.

I would say if we were departing from alphabetical order, we should
first declare that we are *not* looking for the best way to order
the list, so that people do not waste too much time bikeshedding.
Instead what we should aim for is to come up with _an_ order that is
not too unreasonable and settle as quickly as we can.

And from that point of view, what I saw in new-git.1.out, I found it
not so outrageously unreasonable ;-).

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-13 18:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-06 20:04 frederik
2018-07-06 21:16 ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-06 21:18   ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-06 23:21     ` frederik
2018-07-06 23:47       ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-08  1:09         ` frederik
2018-07-24 19:52           ` frederik
2018-07-24 21:11             ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-08-11  2:30               ` frederik
2018-08-13 18:17                 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2019-02-19 17:54                   ` [PATCH 0/1] de-alphabetize command list Frederick Eaton
2019-02-21 18:05                     ` frederik
2019-03-11  9:04                       ` frederik
2019-03-11 14:38                         ` Jacob Keller
2019-02-19 17:54                   ` [PATCH] Prioritize list of commands appearing in git(1), via command-list.txt. Don't invoke 'sort' in Documentation/cmd-list.perl Frederick Eaton
2018-07-07  4:25       ` de-alphabetizing the documentation Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-07-06 21:32   ` Eric Sunshine

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