From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: Kamil Dudka <kdudka@redhat.com>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
bug-gnulib@gnu.org, Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>,
Bernhard Voelker <mail@bernhard-voelker.de>,
NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>, Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Why does close_stdout close stdout and stderr?
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 18:09:59 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c565fd85-dcc7-f09f-5548-faa1073fbee7@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19715489.IPbOx59hZO@kdudka-nb>
Kamil Dudka wrote:
>> OK, but this shouldn't be a problem with any applications currently
>> using close_stdout. At least, none of the applications I know about.
>
> How would you know if they did?
The usual way: ordinary users would be complaining. By "ordinary users" I mean
users other than developers who are employing unusual compiler options,
LD_PRELOAD settings, etc. for testing.
> As long as you link libraries dynamically, any of the directly or indirectly
> linked libraries can introduce an ELF destructor or atexit() handler anytime,
I don't see any way around this problem in general with the closeout module's
current API, because when it discovers an I/O error it calls _exit, and _exit
also clashes with that kind of cleanup handling.
If we want Coreutils and similar programs to be robust even for developers with
unusual configurations for testing, I expect we'll need to change the programs
to not use the closeout module at all. This would complicate these programs,
since we'd need to check every way that every stdin-reading or stdout- or
stderr-writing program can exit normally, and modify the affected programs to
check the relevant I/O streams just before the normal exit occurs.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-05-13 1:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-04-29 19:45 Why does close_stdout close stdout and stderr? Florian Weimer
2019-04-29 19:49 ` Eric Blake
2019-04-29 20:26 ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-06 12:05 ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-06 14:56 ` Bernhard Voelker
2019-05-06 15:47 ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-06 19:14 ` Bernhard Voelker
2019-05-06 19:19 ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-09 6:20 ` Bernhard Voelker
2019-05-09 6:39 ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-09 9:49 ` Bernhard Voelker
2019-05-09 22:17 ` Paul Eggert
2019-05-10 7:28 ` Kamil Dudka
2019-05-10 7:31 ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-13 1:09 ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2019-05-13 7:00 ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-25 1:41 ` Paul Eggert
2019-05-25 10:58 ` Bruno Haible
2019-05-27 11:56 ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-25 11:24 ` Bruno Haible
2019-05-25 19:23 ` Paul Eggert
2019-05-27 12:00 ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-27 21:13 ` Bruno Haible
2019-05-06 18:53 ` Paul Eggert
2019-05-06 19:02 ` Jeff Layton
2019-05-06 22:32 ` Bruno Haible
2019-05-07 9:44 ` Assaf Gordon
2019-05-07 9:49 ` Assaf Gordon
2019-05-07 11:28 ` Bruno Haible
2019-05-08 0:43 ` NeilBrown
2019-05-08 11:00 ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-09 4:42 ` Paul Eggert
2019-05-09 5:01 ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-09 6:27 ` NeilBrown
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