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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Kamil Dudka <kdudka@redhat.com>
Cc: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	bug-gnulib@gnu.org, Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>,
	Bernhard Voelker <mail@bernhard-voelker.de>,
	NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>, Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Why does close_stdout close stdout and stderr?
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 09:31:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pnoqrcil.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19715489.IPbOx59hZO@kdudka-nb> (Kamil Dudka's message of "Fri, 10 May 2019 09:28:22 +0200")

* Kamil Dudka:

> On Friday, May 10, 2019 12:17:11 AM CEST Paul Eggert wrote:
>> On 5/8/19 11:39 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> > atexit handlers run before ELF destructors (and some C++ destructors).
>> > There can also be multiple such handlers.  So it's not true that an
>> > atexit handler always runs last.
>> 
>> OK, but this shouldn't be a problem with any applications currently
>> using close_stdout. At least, none of the applications I know about.
>
> How would you know if they did?
>
> As long as you link libraries dynamically, any of the directly or indirectly 
> linked libraries can introduce an ELF destructor or atexit() handler anytime, 
> which would take an immediate effect even on your already built applications.
> People also like to use instrumentation libraries enforced by LD_PRELOAD in 
> their test environment.  Those can easily clash with such cleanup handlers.

Right.  And I found close_stdout after someone reported problems with an
LD_PRELOAD-like mechanism and its logging output.  For some users, this
is an actual problem.

Thanks,
Florian


  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-10  7:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-29 19:45 Why does close_stdout close stdout and stderr? Florian Weimer
2019-04-29 19:49 ` Eric Blake
2019-04-29 20:26   ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-06 12:05     ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-06 14:56       ` Bernhard Voelker
2019-05-06 15:47         ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-06 19:14           ` Bernhard Voelker
2019-05-06 19:19             ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-09  6:20               ` Bernhard Voelker
2019-05-09  6:39                 ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-09  9:49                   ` Bernhard Voelker
2019-05-09 22:17                   ` Paul Eggert
2019-05-10  7:28                     ` Kamil Dudka
2019-05-10  7:31                       ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2019-05-13  1:09                       ` Paul Eggert
2019-05-13  7:00                         ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-25  1:41                           ` Paul Eggert
2019-05-25 10:58                             ` Bruno Haible
2019-05-27 11:56                             ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-25 11:24                           ` Bruno Haible
2019-05-25 19:23                             ` Paul Eggert
2019-05-27 12:00                             ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-27 21:13                               ` Bruno Haible
2019-05-06 18:53       ` Paul Eggert
2019-05-06 19:02         ` Jeff Layton
2019-05-06 22:32       ` Bruno Haible
2019-05-07  9:44         ` Assaf Gordon
2019-05-07  9:49           ` Assaf Gordon
2019-05-07 11:28           ` Bruno Haible
2019-05-08  0:43             ` NeilBrown
2019-05-08 11:00               ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-09  4:42                 ` Paul Eggert
2019-05-09  5:01                   ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-09  6:27                   ` NeilBrown

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