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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "René Scharfe" <rene.scharfe@lsrfire.ath.cx>
Cc: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>,
	Brendan Miller <catphive@catphive.net>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: obnoxious CLI complaints
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:16:52 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0909111510520.3654@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AAAC8CE.8020302@lsrfire.ath.cx>



On Sat, 12 Sep 2009, René Scharfe wrote:
> 
> But what has bugged me since I added zip support is this result:
> 
> 	# git v1.6.5-rc0
> 	$ time git archive --format=zip -6 v2.6.31 >/dev/null
> 
> 	real	0m16.471s
> 	user	0m16.340s
> 	sys	0m0.128s
> 
> I'd have expected this to be the slowest case, because it's compressing
> all files separately, i.e. it needs to create and flush the compression
> context lots of times instead of only once as in the two cases above.

Oh no, I think it's easily explained.

Compressing many small files really is often cheaper than compressing one 
large one.

With lots of small files, you end up being very limited in the 
search-space, so the compression decisions get simpler. Compression in 
general is not O(n), it's some non-linear factor, often something like 
O(n**2).

Of course, all compression libraries have an upper bound on the 
non-linearity (often expressed as a "window size"), so a particular 
compression algorithm may end up being close to O(n) (with a huge 
constant). But that upper bound will only kick in for large files, small 
files that fit entirely into the compression window will still see the 
underlying O(n**2) or whatever.

But I have no actual numbers to back up the above blathering. But feel 
free to try to compress 10 small files and compare it to compressing one 
file that is as big as the sum. I bet you'll see it.

			Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-11 22:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-09 21:27 obnoxious CLI complaints Brendan Miller
2009-09-09 21:54 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-09-09 22:06   ` Wincent Colaiuta
2009-09-10 16:50     ` Jakub Narebski
2009-09-10 18:53       ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-10 22:19         ` René Scharfe
2009-09-11  3:15         ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-09-10 19:46       ` John Tapsell
2009-09-10 20:17         ` Sverre Rabbelier
2009-09-10 20:23         ` Jakub Narebski
2009-09-10 22:04           ` John Tapsell
2009-09-10 22:49             ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-10 23:19               ` demerphq
2009-09-11  0:37                 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-11  0:18               ` John Tapsell
2009-09-11  0:25                 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-10  0:09   ` Brendan Miller
2009-09-10  1:25     ` Todd Zullinger
2009-09-10  9:16     ` Jakub Narebski
2009-09-10 18:18       ` Eric Schaefer
2009-09-10 18:52         ` Sverre Rabbelier
2009-09-10 22:19       ` René Scharfe
2009-09-11 14:47         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-11 22:01           ` René Scharfe
2009-09-11 22:16             ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2009-09-12 10:31     ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-09-12 18:32       ` John Tapsell
2009-09-12 21:44         ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-09-12 22:21           ` John Tapsell
2009-09-12 22:35             ` A Large Angry SCM
2009-09-12 22:43             ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-09-12 23:08               ` John Tapsell
2009-09-13  2:47                 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-13 17:36                   ` [PATCH 1/2] git-archive: add '-o' as a alias for '--output' Dmitry Potapov
2009-09-13 17:36                     ` [PATCH 2/2] teach git-archive to auto detect the output format Dmitry Potapov
2009-09-13 18:52                       ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-13 20:17                         ` [PATCH v2 " Dmitry Potapov
2009-09-13 21:27                           ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-13 18:34                     ` [PATCH 1/2] git-archive: add '-o' as a alias for '--output' Junio C Hamano
2009-09-13 20:13                       ` [PATCH v2 " Dmitry Potapov
2009-09-17  0:48                   ` obnoxious CLI complaints Brendan Miller
2009-09-17  1:27                     ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-09 21:58 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2009-09-09 22:58 ` Pierre Habouzit
2009-09-10  1:32 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-09-10 18:54   ` Matthieu Moy

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