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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: John Tapsell <johnflux@gmail.com>
Cc: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>,
	Wincent Colaiuta <win@wincent.com>,
	Brendan Miller <catphive@catphive.net>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: obnoxious CLI complaints
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:49:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7v4ora76vr.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43d8ce650909101504q32448cb9w562a43969d01b1fe@mail.gmail.com> (John Tapsell's message of "Fri\, 11 Sep 2009 01\:04\:05 +0300")

John Tapsell <johnflux@gmail.com> writes:

> 2009/9/10 Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>:
>> Dnia czwartek 10. września 2009 21:46, John Tapsell napisał:
>>> 2009/9/10 Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> > First, it would be consistent with how ordinary archivers such as tar
>>> > or zip are used, where you have to specify list of files to archive
>>> > (in our case this list is HEAD).  Second, I'd rather not accidentally
>>> > dump binary to terminal: "git archive [HEAD]" dumps archive to standard
>>> > output.
>>>
>>> That could be fixed by outputting to a file.  git format-patch outputs
>>> to a file, so why wouldn't git achieve?
>>
>> "git format-patch" outputs to files because it generates _multiple_
>> files; generating single patch is special case.  Also git-format-patch
>> can generate file names from patch (commit) subject; it is not the case
>> for "git archive" (what name should it use?).
>
> What if it used the current (or topleve) directory name?  Wouldn't
> that work in most cases?

Following along the same line of reasoning, it would work in most cases if
the output is literally named "archive.tar".  If it is not the name the
user wants, the user can "mv" afterwards, or give an explicit filename.

What it does _not_ allow is to send the output to a downstream command for
postprocessing without introducing some magic token to say "standard
output" (e.g. "git archive -f - | (cd ../foo && tar xf -)").

If the default is to write to the standard output, we won't have all of
these issues.  People who want a file can name the file by

	git archive >my.file.tar

and people who want to pipe (which is 99% of the use pattern for me) can
say

	git archive | down stream commands.

Oh, wait.

That is exactly what we have, so what's the point of continuing this
discussion any further?  Can we just stop?

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-10 22:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-09 21:27 obnoxious CLI complaints Brendan Miller
2009-09-09 21:54 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-09-09 22:06   ` Wincent Colaiuta
2009-09-10 16:50     ` Jakub Narebski
2009-09-10 18:53       ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-10 22:19         ` René Scharfe
2009-09-11  3:15         ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-09-10 19:46       ` John Tapsell
2009-09-10 20:17         ` Sverre Rabbelier
2009-09-10 20:23         ` Jakub Narebski
2009-09-10 22:04           ` John Tapsell
2009-09-10 22:49             ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2009-09-10 23:19               ` demerphq
2009-09-11  0:37                 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-11  0:18               ` John Tapsell
2009-09-11  0:25                 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-10  0:09   ` Brendan Miller
2009-09-10  1:25     ` Todd Zullinger
2009-09-10  9:16     ` Jakub Narebski
2009-09-10 18:18       ` Eric Schaefer
2009-09-10 18:52         ` Sverre Rabbelier
2009-09-10 22:19       ` René Scharfe
2009-09-11 14:47         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-11 22:01           ` René Scharfe
2009-09-11 22:16             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-12 10:31     ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-09-12 18:32       ` John Tapsell
2009-09-12 21:44         ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-09-12 22:21           ` John Tapsell
2009-09-12 22:35             ` A Large Angry SCM
2009-09-12 22:43             ` Dmitry Potapov
2009-09-12 23:08               ` John Tapsell
2009-09-13  2:47                 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-13 17:36                   ` [PATCH 1/2] git-archive: add '-o' as a alias for '--output' Dmitry Potapov
2009-09-13 17:36                     ` [PATCH 2/2] teach git-archive to auto detect the output format Dmitry Potapov
2009-09-13 18:52                       ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-13 20:17                         ` [PATCH v2 " Dmitry Potapov
2009-09-13 21:27                           ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-13 18:34                     ` [PATCH 1/2] git-archive: add '-o' as a alias for '--output' Junio C Hamano
2009-09-13 20:13                       ` [PATCH v2 " Dmitry Potapov
2009-09-17  0:48                   ` obnoxious CLI complaints Brendan Miller
2009-09-17  1:27                     ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-09 21:58 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2009-09-09 22:58 ` Pierre Habouzit
2009-09-10  1:32 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-09-10 18:54   ` Matthieu Moy

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