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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: NightStrike <nightstrike@gmail.com>
Cc: Daniel Berlin <dberlin@dberlin.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	        ismail@pardus.org.tr, gcc@gcc.gnu.org,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Git and GCC
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 10:45:40 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.9999.0712061036200.13796@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b609cb3b0712061024rc48022bhc3fbfba02061dd94@mail.gmail.com>



On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, NightStrike wrote:
> 
> No disrespect is meant by this reply.  I am just curious (and I am
> probably misunderstanding something)..  Why remove all of the
> documentation entirely?  Wouldn't it be better to just document it
> more thoroughly?

Well, part of it is that I don't think "--aggressive" as it is implemented 
right now is really almost *ever* the right answer. We could change the 
implementation, of course, but generally the right thing to do is to not 
use it (tweaking the "--window" and "--depth" manually for the repacking 
is likely the more natural thing to do).

The other part of the answer is that, when you *do* want to do what that 
"--aggressive" tries to achieve, it's such a special case event that while 
it should probably be documented, I don't think it should necessarily be 
documented where it is now (as part of "git gc"), but as part of a much 
more technical manual for "deep and subtle tricks you can play".

> I thought you did a fine job in this post in explaining its purpose, 
> when to use it, when not to, etc.  Removing the documention seems 
> counter-intuitive when you've already gone to the trouble of creating 
> good documentation here in this post.

I'm so used to writing emails, and I *like* trying to explain what is 
going on, so I have no problems at all doing that kind of thing. However, 
trying to write a manual or man-page or other technical documentation is 
something rather different.

IOW, I like explaining git within the _context_ of a discussion or a 
particular problem/issue. But documentation should work regardless of 
context (or at least set it up), and that's the part I am not so good at.

In other words, if somebody (hint hint) thinks my explanation was good and 
readable, I'd love for them to try to turn it into real documentation by 
editing it up and creating enough context for it! But I'm nort personally 
very likely to do that. I'd just send Junio the patch to remove a 
misleading part of the documentation we have.

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-06 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4aca3dc20712051108s216d3331t8061ef45b9aa324a@mail.gmail.com>
2007-12-06  2:28 ` Git and GCC David Miller
2007-12-06  2:41   ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06  2:52     ` David Miller
2007-12-06  3:47       ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06  4:20         ` David Miller
2007-12-06  4:28           ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06  4:32           ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06  4:48             ` David Miller
2007-12-06  5:11               ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06  5:15                 ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06  5:17                   ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06  6:47                     ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-06  7:15                       ` Jeff King
2007-12-06 14:18                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 17:39                           ` Jeff King
2007-12-06 18:02                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-07  6:50                               ` Jeff King
2007-12-07  7:27                                 ` Jeff King
2007-12-06 18:35                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-06 18:55                               ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-06 19:08                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 21:39                                   ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-06 22:08                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 22:11                                       ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-06 22:22                                       ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-06 22:30                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 22:44                                           ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-07  7:31                               ` Jeff King
2007-12-08  0:47                               ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-10  9:54                                 ` Gabriel Paubert
2007-12-10 15:35                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-07  3:31                             ` David Miller
2007-12-07  6:38                               ` Jeff King
2007-12-07  7:10                                 ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-07 12:53                                   ` David Miller
2007-12-07 17:23                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07 20:26                                       ` Giovanni Bajo
2007-12-07 22:14                                         ` Jakub Narebski
2007-12-07 23:04                                           ` Luke Lu
2007-12-07 23:14                                           ` Giovanni Bajo
2007-12-07 23:33                                             ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-08 12:00                                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-08  1:55                                       ` David Miller
2007-12-10  9:57                                     ` David Miller
2007-12-06  6:09                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-06  7:49                   ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06  8:11                     ` David Brown
2007-12-06 14:01                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 12:03                   ` [PATCH] gc --aggressive: make it really aggressive Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-06 13:42                     ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-06 14:15                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 14:22                     ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-06 15:55                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-06 17:05                         ` David Kastrup
2007-12-06 15:30                     ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06 15:56                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-06 16:19                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-18 16:01                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-03-18 16:27                       ` Teemu Likonen
2009-03-18 18:02                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 18:04                   ` Git and GCC Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06 18:29                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07  2:42                     ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-07  3:01                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07  4:06                         ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-07  4:21                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-07  5:21                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07  7:08                             ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-07 19:36                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 18:24                   ` NightStrike
2007-12-06 18:45                     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-12-07  5:36                       ` NightStrike
2007-12-06 19:12                   ` Jon Loeliger
2007-12-06 19:39                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07  0:29                       ` Jakub Narebski
2007-12-06 20:04                     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-06 21:02                       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-06 22:26                         ` David Kastrup
2007-12-06 22:38                           ` [OT] " Randy Dunlap
2007-12-06  4:25         ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06  4:54           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-06  5:04             ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06 11:57       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-06 12:04         ` Ismail Dönmez
     [not found] ` <2007-12-05-21-23-14+trackit+sam@rfc1149.net>
     [not found]   ` <1196891451.10408.54.camel@brick>
     [not found]     ` <jeeje0ogvk.fsf@sykes.suse.de>
     [not found]       ` <1196897840.10408.57.camel@brick>
     [not found]         ` <38a0d8450712130640p1b5d74d6nfa124ad0b0110d64@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` <1197572755.898.15.camel@brick>
2007-12-17 22:15             ` "Argument list too long" in git remote update (Was: Git and GCC) Geert Bosch
2007-12-17 22:59               ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-17 23:01               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-18  1:34                 ` Derek Fawcus
2007-12-18  1:52                   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-12-08  2:21 Git and GCC J.C. Pizarro
2007-12-08 12:24 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-08 19:53   ` Joe Buck
2007-12-08 20:28     ` Marco Costalba
2007-12-09  1:51       ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-15  0:18   ` Nix

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