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From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Daniel Berlin <dberlin@dberlin.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	ismail@pardus.org.tr, gcc@gcc.gnu.org, git@vger.kernel.org,
	gitster@pobox.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gc --aggressive: make it really aggressive
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 08:42:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071206134243.GA17037@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0712061201580.27959@racer.site>

On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 12:03:38PM +0000, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> 
> The default was not to change the window or depth at all.  As suggested
> by Jon Smirl, Linus Torvalds and others, default to
> 
> 	--window=250 --depth=250

I'd also suggest adding a comment in the man pages that this should
only be done rarely, and that it can potentially take a *long* time
(i.e., overnight) for big repositories, and in general it's not worth
the effort to use --aggressive.

Apologies to Linus and to the gcc folks, since I was the one who
originally coded up gc --aggressive, and at the time my intent was
"rarely does it make sense, and it may take a long time".  The reason
why I didn't make the default --window and --depth larger is because
at the time the biggest repo I had easy access to was the Linux
kernel's, and there you rapidly hit diminishing returns at much
smaller numbers, so there was no real point in using --window=250
--depth=250.

Linus later pointed out that what we *really* should do is at some
point was to change repack -f to potentially retry to find a better
delta, but to reuse the existing delta if it was no worse.  That
automatically does the right thing in the case where you had
previously done a repack with --window=<large n> --depth=<large n>,
but then later try using "gc --agressive", which ends up doing a worse
job and throwing away the information from the previous repack with
large window and depth sizes.  Unfortunately no one ever got around to
implementing that.

Regards,

						- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-06 13:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4aca3dc20712051108s216d3331t8061ef45b9aa324a@mail.gmail.com>
2007-12-06  2:28 ` Git and GCC David Miller
2007-12-06  2:41   ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06  2:52     ` David Miller
2007-12-06  3:47       ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06  4:20         ` David Miller
2007-12-06  4:28           ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06  4:32           ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06  4:48             ` David Miller
2007-12-06  5:11               ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06  5:15                 ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06  5:17                   ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06  6:47                     ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-06  7:15                       ` Jeff King
2007-12-06 14:18                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 17:39                           ` Jeff King
2007-12-06 18:02                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-07  6:50                               ` Jeff King
2007-12-07  7:27                                 ` Jeff King
2007-12-06 18:35                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-06 18:55                               ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-06 19:08                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 21:39                                   ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-06 22:08                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 22:11                                       ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-06 22:22                                       ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-06 22:30                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 22:44                                           ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-07  7:31                               ` Jeff King
2007-12-08  0:47                               ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-10  9:54                                 ` Gabriel Paubert
2007-12-10 15:35                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-07  3:31                             ` David Miller
2007-12-07  6:38                               ` Jeff King
2007-12-07  7:10                                 ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-07 12:53                                   ` David Miller
2007-12-07 17:23                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07 20:26                                       ` Giovanni Bajo
2007-12-07 22:14                                         ` Jakub Narebski
2007-12-07 23:04                                           ` Luke Lu
2007-12-07 23:14                                           ` Giovanni Bajo
2007-12-07 23:33                                             ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-08 12:00                                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-08  1:55                                       ` David Miller
2007-12-10  9:57                                     ` David Miller
2007-12-06  6:09                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-06  7:49                   ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06  8:11                     ` David Brown
2007-12-06 14:01                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 12:03                   ` [PATCH] gc --aggressive: make it really aggressive Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-06 13:42                     ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2007-12-06 14:15                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 14:22                     ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-06 15:55                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-06 17:05                         ` David Kastrup
2007-12-06 15:30                     ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06 15:56                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-06 16:19                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-18 16:01                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-03-18 16:27                       ` Teemu Likonen
2009-03-18 18:02                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 18:04                   ` Git and GCC Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06 18:29                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07  2:42                     ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-07  3:01                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07  4:06                         ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-07  4:21                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-07  5:21                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07  7:08                             ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-07 19:36                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 18:24                   ` NightStrike
2007-12-06 18:45                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07  5:36                       ` NightStrike
2007-12-06 19:12                   ` Jon Loeliger
2007-12-06 19:39                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07  0:29                       ` Jakub Narebski
2007-12-06 20:04                     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-06 21:02                       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-06 22:26                         ` David Kastrup
2007-12-06 22:38                           ` [OT] " Randy Dunlap
2007-12-06  4:25         ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06  4:54           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-06  5:04             ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06 11:57       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-06 12:04         ` Ismail Dönmez
     [not found] ` <2007-12-05-21-23-14+trackit+sam@rfc1149.net>
     [not found]   ` <1196891451.10408.54.camel@brick>
     [not found]     ` <jeeje0ogvk.fsf@sykes.suse.de>
     [not found]       ` <1196897840.10408.57.camel@brick>
     [not found]         ` <38a0d8450712130640p1b5d74d6nfa124ad0b0110d64@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` <1197572755.898.15.camel@brick>
2007-12-17 22:15             ` "Argument list too long" in git remote update (Was: Git and GCC) Geert Bosch
2007-12-17 22:59               ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-17 23:01               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-18  1:34                 ` Derek Fawcus
2007-12-18  1:52                   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-12-06 19:07 [PATCH] gc --aggressive: make it really aggressive J.C. Pizarro

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