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From: Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
	Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Brandon Casey <drafnel@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Move sequencer to builtin
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 15:28:48 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALkWK0kkGO8zoLSpZkaYgVr5eBX6AovYFxQZkgJKugSw0CmdXQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130609043444.GA561@sigill.intra.peff.net>

Jeff King wrote:
> Sorry that I cannot show you the source code, but you may interested to
> know that libgit2 powers:

Yes, I'm well aware of these: libgit2 is LGPL, because of which these
three proprietary applications have been made possible.  Isn't it
completely orthogonal to the discussion about how best to lib'ify
git.git though?  From what I understand, fc is not interested in
building another application leveraging libgit.a or libgit2; he's
interested in improving libgit.a and getting more users.

> It is definitely not feature-complete when compared with git.git. But I
> do think it is in a state that is usable for quite a few tasks.

What is this task you are discussing?  fc is talking about improving
libgit.a and getting an official git library with many users.  Answer
the question: what should we do now?

1. Start moving irrelevant code out of libgit.a, and use inspiration
from libgit2 to improve it (this might or might not involve taking
code from libgit2).  Get _users_ of libgit.a via ruby bindings (or
something) asap, so it puts pressure on fixing it.

2. Wait indefinitely until libgit2.git magically becomes ready to be
usable by git.git as-is.  Then throw libgit.a out the window, and
rewrite git.git to call into libgit2.a instead [*1*].

What you seem to be saying is "3. Work on libgit2 (and abandon
git.git?)" [*2*], or worse: 2.  fc is in favor of 1.  Unless you are
in favor of _not_ improving libgit.a, don't stand in his way: you
might personally think that it is a difficult (or impossible) task,
but that's no reason to stop fc from trying.  I personally think his
goal is admirable, and I'm nobody to say that it cannot be done:
therefore, I will review his patches and help him in whatever little
way I can.

[Footnote]

*1* You have dismissed 1 as being unworkable, but do you realize how
unrealistic this sounds?

*2* git.git has _far_ more users and a _lot_ more contributors.  Don't
be unwelcoming to contributors by asking them to go away and work on
something else.  The three proprietary applications you have given as
counter-examples (?) is not helping anyone.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-09  9:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-07 22:16 [PATCH 0/2] Move sequencer Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 22:16 ` [PATCH 1/2] log-tree: remove dependency from sequencer Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 22:16 ` [PATCH 2/2] Move sequencer to builtin Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08  2:35   ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 10:14     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 11:42       ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 12:25         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 12:34           ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 12:55             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-08 13:15               ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 13:32                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 13:34                 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-08 14:10                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 14:10                   ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 14:20                     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09  4:34                       ` Jeff King
2013-06-09  9:58                         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra [this message]
2013-06-09 17:55                           ` Jeff King
2013-06-09 18:06                             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09 18:11                               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 18:22                               ` Jeff King
2013-06-09 18:29                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 18:44                                 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09 18:49                                   ` Jeff King
2013-06-09 18:54                                     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 18:07                             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 12:09                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 13:28             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 16:49         ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-06-08 17:06           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 17:34             ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-06-08 17:44               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 19:15               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09  1:40                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-06-09  2:17                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09  3:21                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-06-09  3:34                       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09  5:26                     ` Jeff King
2013-06-09 12:15                       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 17:40                         ` Jeff King
2013-06-09 18:01                           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 18:10                             ` Jeff King
2013-06-09 18:16                               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 19:11                                 ` Johan Herland
2013-06-09 19:29                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 21:42                                   ` Michael Haggerty
2013-06-09 23:40                                     ` Stefano Lattarini
2013-06-10  5:15                                       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-10  9:05                                         ` Bad attitudes and problems in the Git community (was: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Move sequencer to builtin) Stefano Lattarini
2013-06-10 16:58                                           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-10 18:11                                             ` Martin von Zweigbergk
2013-06-10 18:33                                               ` Martin Langhoff
2013-06-10 18:40                                                 ` Martin von Zweigbergk
2013-06-10 21:34                                               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-10  5:12                                     ` [PATCH 2/2] Move sequencer to builtin Felipe Contreras
2013-06-11  9:18                             ` Andres Freund
2013-06-11  9:29                               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-20 21:11                                 ` Thiago Farina
2013-06-09 17:53                         ` Thomas Rast
2013-06-09 18:03                           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 12:48                       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09 13:08                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 18:04                         ` Jeff King
2013-06-09 18:32                           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09 18:45                             ` Jeff King
2013-06-09 19:57                               ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-06-09 20:07                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 20:34                                 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09 21:39                               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-10  5:06                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-10  8:32                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-10 16:53                                     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-10 16:55                                       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-10 17:34                                       ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-10 18:09                                         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-10 21:43                                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 18:48                             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 19:25                             ` Thomas Rast
2013-06-09 19:54                               ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09 20:02                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08  3:35 ` [PATCH 0/2] Move sequencer Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-08 10:26   ` Felipe Contreras

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