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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Brandon Casey <drafnel@gmail.com>,
	Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Move sequencer to builtin
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 01:26:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130609052624.GB561@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMP44s3CGHVLnkUxo=PR_b+_dTuaz5rwems_pd9GE1_vcEaYRA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 09:17:56PM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:

> > Definitely, yes.  Even if you look at the impact on code alone and
> > don't care about the people, destroying a collegial work environment
> > is harmful enough to the code to outweigh the (admittedly often
> > useful) patches.
> 
> A collegial work environment is overrated, and proof of that the Linux
> kernel, where honest and straight talk is the bread and butter of the
> mailing list. And the Linux kernel is the most successful software
> project in history by far. It's code that speaks.

Sorry, but I don't agree, and I want to publicly state my opinion so
that Jonathan (and other bystanders on the list) knows that he is not
alone in his opinions.

I have consistently found your demeanor on the list to be very
unfriendly and difficult to work with. It is one thing to have honest
and straight talk, and another thing to be obstinate, unmindful of
feedback (both with respect to technical details, as well as to
communication styles), and disrespectful of other people.

You have accused others of assuming you make comments in bad faith.
Perhaps it is true that you are very pleasant and easy to work with in
person, but in my opinion that is not the case, at least by email. I may
be wrong, of course, and I certainly do not claim to be perfect myself.
But I find it telling that many of the list participants seem to have
had conflicts with you, and not with anyone else. So perhaps you may
want to reconsider your style of communication.

Unlike Jonathan, I would not ban you from the list. I do not believe in
censoring anybody who is not a direct and constant nuisance (like a
spammer). But personally I have a limited capacity for discussion with
you, as it seems to have a knack for going back and forth, consuming a
lot of time, and ending nowhere productive.

It is certainly your choice about how you will communicate. But likewise
it is the choice of readers and reviewers to choose how much of their
time to give to your writings.

-Peff

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-09  5:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-07 22:16 [PATCH 0/2] Move sequencer Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 22:16 ` [PATCH 1/2] log-tree: remove dependency from sequencer Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 22:16 ` [PATCH 2/2] Move sequencer to builtin Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08  2:35   ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 10:14     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 11:42       ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 12:25         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 12:34           ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 12:55             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-08 13:15               ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 13:32                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 13:34                 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-08 14:10                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 14:10                   ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 14:20                     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09  4:34                       ` Jeff King
2013-06-09  9:58                         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09 17:55                           ` Jeff King
2013-06-09 18:06                             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09 18:11                               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 18:22                               ` Jeff King
2013-06-09 18:29                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 18:44                                 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09 18:49                                   ` Jeff King
2013-06-09 18:54                                     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 18:07                             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 12:09                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 13:28             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 16:49         ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-06-08 17:06           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 17:34             ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-06-08 17:44               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 19:15               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09  1:40                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-06-09  2:17                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09  3:21                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-06-09  3:34                       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09  5:26                     ` Jeff King [this message]
2013-06-09 12:15                       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 17:40                         ` Jeff King
2013-06-09 18:01                           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 18:10                             ` Jeff King
2013-06-09 18:16                               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 19:11                                 ` Johan Herland
2013-06-09 19:29                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 21:42                                   ` Michael Haggerty
2013-06-09 23:40                                     ` Stefano Lattarini
2013-06-10  5:15                                       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-10  9:05                                         ` Bad attitudes and problems in the Git community (was: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Move sequencer to builtin) Stefano Lattarini
2013-06-10 16:58                                           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-10 18:11                                             ` Martin von Zweigbergk
2013-06-10 18:33                                               ` Martin Langhoff
2013-06-10 18:40                                                 ` Martin von Zweigbergk
2013-06-10 21:34                                               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-10  5:12                                     ` [PATCH 2/2] Move sequencer to builtin Felipe Contreras
2013-06-11  9:18                             ` Andres Freund
2013-06-11  9:29                               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-20 21:11                                 ` Thiago Farina
2013-06-09 17:53                         ` Thomas Rast
2013-06-09 18:03                           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 12:48                       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09 13:08                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 18:04                         ` Jeff King
2013-06-09 18:32                           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09 18:45                             ` Jeff King
2013-06-09 19:57                               ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-06-09 20:07                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 20:34                                 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09 21:39                               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-10  5:06                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-10  8:32                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-10 16:53                                     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-10 16:55                                       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-10 17:34                                       ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-10 18:09                                         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-10 21:43                                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 18:48                             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 19:25                             ` Thomas Rast
2013-06-09 19:54                               ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09 20:02                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08  3:35 ` [PATCH 0/2] Move sequencer Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-08 10:26   ` Felipe Contreras

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