Re: merging mono files

["Dr. Mark Bugeja MD" <marcusfb@gmail.com>]

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Thank you very much for your feedback. I must admit that this exercise 
was presented to me by a friend and I am myself trying to help him. To 
do so it seems like I have to learn a lot of things which would be 
beyond the routine tasks I do for myself. Generally I do not like 
automated processes in my project as it tends to increase artificiality 
rather than preserving the warts and all in the creation of digital 
replicas of real instruments. I do not want to achieve perfection to end 
up with perfect, dull, "synthesized" sounds that would be tiring to the 
ears. These just don't sound right and have been an issue with branded 
electronic instruments one can buy at music stores for as long as they 
have been in existence.

Though I am willing to learn new stuff, learning syntax and codes is not 
something I am prepared for at this point in time. I have already gone 
well out of my way to help someone else in my benevolence.... putting on 
the back burner my own stuff which I need to work on desperately. Whilst 
I did request the feature in a SoX update, I retract that completely as 
I realised that this situation was a one-off in the line of work I am 
doing and I doubt I'd ever come across a similar situation again. Most 
samplesets are processed in stereo and left as such. I recently learnt 
that it is only Hauptwerk software that apparently needs seperate 
channels to achieve a specific effect when tremolo is used.

What I hoped for was that someone had done this before and could tell me 
what lines of characters, dots, dashes and stars I needed to type to 
create a bat file that would do the job. It appears that many have not 
understood the task of creating digital samplesets, don not know what 
loops are etc. Fair enough. We're into different field in audio 
sampling. Granted. I am a doctor not a brain surgeon and I am not 
expected to handle brain tumours other than referring the patient to 
hospital if I suspect one.

My apologies if I sounded like I wanted a quick fix. I did want one, 
indeed. I don't think anyone would be prepared to learn Japanese to do a 
single translation for a friend or himself for that matter.

Regards

Mark


On 09/12/2016 10:08, fmiser wrote:
>> Dr. wrote:
>> I cannot give any more information on where the loops and
>> markers are. They are created using audio software.
>> I cannot add more than this since I am in no way technically
>> minded to be able to answer certain questions.
> Okay.
>
> You are embarked on a task that appears to me to involve a
> lot of technically minded tasks.  I asked because _I_ don't know -
> and hoped you would.  And just because you don't know the details
> doesn't mean SoX and this list can't help.
> The list has proven again and again it is eager to help -
> especially those who are willing to do some work for themselves.
> I will admit, the list is also a bit rough on people who show up
> and expect to be handed a solution with no effort of their own.
>
> I'm not wanting to be rude, or harsh, but your early posts
> seemed to suggest that you expected the list to tell you
> exactly what you must type into the shell to make everything work
> just right.  That will turn many people away from helping.
>
> Said another way, we are here to _help_ you, not do it for you.
> *smiles*  The more you help us understand, the more we can help
> you.
>
>> It does not matter if SoX would not include features like these.
>> I thought I'd make my perfectly legitimate request.... I tried.
> Did you check the one you merged to stereo?  Did the markers come
> through or did they get lost?  Maybe it already does what you want!
>
> In a former post, you wrote:
>
>> and YES I get a stereo.wav which appears correct on Soundforge!!!
>>
>> Horrah!!
> Does that mean the file that SoX merged DID retain the markers you
> want?  Or is it just the audio and the markers are lost?
>
> What you seem to be describing as loops and cues sure seems to NOT
> be part of standard audio file specs.  It's impossible for me to
> _do_ anything because I don't have any way to be sure any file I
> have is what you are working with.  Maybe I can add a mark - but
> is that the same as the one you have?
>
> If SoX is NOT handling the markers, can you provide sample files?
> There are some very clever people who might be able to figure
> something out.  But if you can't describe it technically, and
> can't indicate a standard it conforms to, or provide a sample, we
> are probably unable to help you.
>
>> I'll just have to be patient and do the job manually.
> Do what you want.  *smiles*  There are a lot of us that are very
> happy with what SoX can do for our audio task.  I'm willing to bet
> every single one of us - probably including the developers - has
> had to spend a chuck of time trying to figure out how to use this
> supertool called SoX!  And if you are not comfortable with command
> line, then you have two learning tasks on top of each other.
>
> As to doing a tedious job manually, personally, I prefer spending
> time figuring out how to use a batch processing tool - and build a
> script to call it - than doing a repetitive task.  Then the job is
> done AND I have added to my own "toolbox" so I'm better prepared
> for the next challenge.  But that's just me.  You are free - and
> welcome - to do as you please.
>> SoX was recommended to me by a friend with whom I create
>> samplesets. I took up that recommendation but clearly this is
>> not the software I need,
> SoX is very good at a LOT of audio processing tasks.  But it's
> also not able to do everything.
> Familiarity with using a command line and writing a batch file is
> almost essential to what you are wanting to do.  Whether using SoX
> or one of the tool I list below, success depends on BOTH what
> command to run AND how to manipulate the command so it will
> process a whole bunch.
> You could also look at ecasound, though I think that may be a *nix
> only program.  It too is a command line audio tool.  It
> specializes in multitrack recording and editing, and your task of
> merging two mono files into a stereo file is just the sort of
> thing it does well.
>
> ffmpeg is capable of combining two mono files into a stereo file.
> I know it is available for MS Win.
>
> I ran a search for "batch process stereo from two mono files" and found
> BatchPro.
> http://www.digitalbrain-instruments.com/batchpro
>
> I could not load the website, so I cannot comment further.
>
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