[ruby-core:101731] [Ruby master Bug#17477] Ractor and pp incompatibility

[ruby-core:101731] [Ruby master Bug#17477] Ractor and pp incompatibility

[shatrov]

Issue #17477 has been reported by kirs (Kir Shatrov).

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Bug #17477: Ractor and pp incompatibility
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17477

* Author: kirs (Kir Shatrov)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
* ruby -v: 3.0.0
* Backport: 2.5: UNKNOWN, 2.6: UNKNOWN, 2.7: UNKNOWN
----------------------------------------
```ruby
r = Ractor.new do
  pp("foobar")
end
Ractor.select(r)
```

fails with:

```
#<Thread:0x00007f973414a050 run> terminated with exception (report_on_exception is true):
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:164:in `ensure in require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from <internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:167:in `require'
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:37:in `require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
<internal:ractor>:345:in `select': thrown by remote Ractor. (Ractor::RemoteError)
	from notractor.rb:11:in `<main>'
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:164:in `ensure in require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from <internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:167:in `require'
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:37:in `require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
```

This is easy to fix by calling `require 'pp'` in the top from the main Ractor - but I don't think it is expected for developers. We should optimize for developer's happiness and either make it just work or make it clear that everything should be required beforehand.



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[ruby-core:101749] [Ruby master Bug#17477] Ractor and pp incompatibility

[eregontp]

Issue #17477 has been updated by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).


I doubt `require` can ever be supported in a Ractor, see #17420.

It seems there is no good solution for this, and besides this problem not only happens with `pp` but with any kind of "autoloaded" library/gem.

----------------------------------------
Bug #17477: Ractor and pp incompatibility
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17477#change-89573

* Author: kirs (Kir Shatrov)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
* ruby -v: 3.0.0
* Backport: 2.5: UNKNOWN, 2.6: UNKNOWN, 2.7: UNKNOWN
----------------------------------------
```ruby
r = Ractor.new do
  pp("foobar")
end
Ractor.select(r)
```

fails with:

```
#<Thread:0x00007f973414a050 run> terminated with exception (report_on_exception is true):
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:164:in `ensure in require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from <internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:167:in `require'
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:37:in `require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
<internal:ractor>:345:in `select': thrown by remote Ractor. (Ractor::RemoteError)
	from notractor.rb:11:in `<main>'
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:164:in `ensure in require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from <internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:167:in `require'
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:37:in `require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
```

This is easy to fix by calling `require 'pp'` in the top from the main Ractor - but I don't think it is expected for developers. We should optimize for developer's happiness and either make it just work or make it clear that everything should be required beforehand.



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[ruby-core:101766] [Ruby master Bug#17477] Ractor and pp incompatibility

[duerst]

Issue #17477 has been updated by duerst (Martin Dürst).


My preference would be to make `require` work everywhere, but always be executed in the main Reactor. That would just be part of the semantics of `require`.

----------------------------------------
Bug #17477: Ractor and pp incompatibility
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17477#change-89593

* Author: kirs (Kir Shatrov)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
* ruby -v: 3.0.0
* Backport: 2.5: UNKNOWN, 2.6: UNKNOWN, 2.7: UNKNOWN
----------------------------------------
```ruby
r = Ractor.new do
  pp("foobar")
end
Ractor.select(r)
```

fails with:

```
#<Thread:0x00007f973414a050 run> terminated with exception (report_on_exception is true):
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:164:in `ensure in require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from <internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:167:in `require'
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:37:in `require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
<internal:ractor>:345:in `select': thrown by remote Ractor. (Ractor::RemoteError)
	from notractor.rb:11:in `<main>'
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:164:in `ensure in require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from <internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:167:in `require'
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:37:in `require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
```

This is easy to fix by calling `require 'pp'` in the top from the main Ractor - but I don't think it is expected for developers. We should optimize for developer's happiness and either make it just work or make it clear that everything should be required beforehand.



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[ruby-core:101769] [Ruby master Bug#17477] Ractor and pp incompatibility

[marcandre-ruby-core]

Issue #17477 has been updated by marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune).


I wrote a similar opinion to Martin Dürst's in #17420. I propose that we comment there (simply because the issue is older and more general)

----------------------------------------
Bug #17477: Ractor and pp incompatibility
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17477#change-89597

* Author: kirs (Kir Shatrov)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
* ruby -v: 3.0.0
* Backport: 2.5: UNKNOWN, 2.6: UNKNOWN, 2.7: UNKNOWN
----------------------------------------
```ruby
r = Ractor.new do
  pp("foobar")
end
Ractor.select(r)
```

fails with:

```
#<Thread:0x00007f973414a050 run> terminated with exception (report_on_exception is true):
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:164:in `ensure in require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from <internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:167:in `require'
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:37:in `require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
<internal:ractor>:345:in `select': thrown by remote Ractor. (Ractor::RemoteError)
	from notractor.rb:11:in `<main>'
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:164:in `ensure in require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from <internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:167:in `require'
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:37:in `require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
```

This is easy to fix by calling `require 'pp'` in the top from the main Ractor - but I don't think it is expected for developers. We should optimize for developer's happiness and either make it just work or make it clear that everything should be required beforehand.



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[ruby-core:101805] [Ruby master Bug#17477] Ractor and pp incompatibility

[shatrov]

Issue #17477 has been updated by kirs (Kir Shatrov).


marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune) wrote in #note-4:
> I wrote a similar opinion to Martin Dürst's in #17420. I propose that we comment there (simply because the issue is older and more general)

Thanks, I wasn't aware of #17420. Should I close this ticket?

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Bug #17477: Ractor and pp incompatibility
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17477#change-89632

* Author: kirs (Kir Shatrov)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
* ruby -v: 3.0.0
* Backport: 2.5: UNKNOWN, 2.6: UNKNOWN, 2.7: UNKNOWN
----------------------------------------
```ruby
r = Ractor.new do
  pp("foobar")
end
Ractor.select(r)
```

fails with:

```
#<Thread:0x00007f973414a050 run> terminated with exception (report_on_exception is true):
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:164:in `ensure in require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from <internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:167:in `require'
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:37:in `require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
<internal:ractor>:345:in `select': thrown by remote Ractor. (Ractor::RemoteError)
	from notractor.rb:11:in `<main>'
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:164:in `ensure in require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from <internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:167:in `require'
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:37:in `require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
```

This is easy to fix by calling `require 'pp'` in the top from the main Ractor - but I don't think it is expected for developers. We should optimize for developer's happiness and either make it just work or make it clear that everything should be required beforehand.



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[ruby-core:101921] [Ruby master Bug#17477] Ractor and pp incompatibility

[ko1]

Issue #17477 has been updated by ko1 (Koichi Sasada).

Status changed from Open to Closed

continue to discuss on #17420.

----------------------------------------
Bug #17477: Ractor and pp incompatibility
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17477#change-89767

* Author: kirs (Kir Shatrov)
* Status: Closed
* Priority: Normal
* ruby -v: 3.0.0
* Backport: 2.5: UNKNOWN, 2.6: UNKNOWN, 2.7: UNKNOWN
----------------------------------------
```ruby
r = Ractor.new do
  pp("foobar")
end
Ractor.select(r)
```

fails with:

```
#<Thread:0x00007f973414a050 run> terminated with exception (report_on_exception is true):
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:164:in `ensure in require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from <internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:167:in `require'
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:37:in `require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
<internal:ractor>:345:in `select': thrown by remote Ractor. (Ractor::RemoteError)
	from notractor.rb:11:in `<main>'
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:164:in `ensure in require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from <internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:167:in `require'
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
<internal:/opt/rubies/3.0.0/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:37:in `require': can not access non-shareable objects in constant Kernel::RUBYGEMS_ACTIVATION_MONITOR by non-main ractor. (Ractor::IsolationError)
	from notractor.rb:8:in `block in <main>'
```

This is easy to fix by calling `require 'pp'` in the top from the main Ractor - but I don't think it is expected for developers. We should optimize for developer's happiness and either make it just work or make it clear that everything should be required beforehand.



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