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To: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org
Subject: [ruby-core:91502] [Ruby trunk Feature#15592] mode where "autoload" behaves like an immediate "require"
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2019 17:47:16 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <redmine.journal-76762.20190209174713.1df57fc7f16b8f2a@ruby-lang.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: redmine.issue-15592.20190207065816@ruby-lang.org

Issue #15592 has been updated by fxn (Xavier Noria).


> I guess it needs some convention between constant names and filenames.
I agree it is good if such convention is available. (convention over configuration)
Unfortunately, Ruby itself has no such reliable convention.

Yes.

> Initial list of autoload constants are defined before user application before
eager_load_autoloads.
> I think this can be implemented without much problems.

Agree.

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Feature #15592: mode where "autoload" behaves like an immediate "require"
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/15592#change-76762

* Author: akr (Akira Tanaka)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
* Assignee: 
* Target version: 
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How about a feature to switch "autoload" behavior to "require" immediately.

autoload is a feature for lazy loading.

matz dislikes autoload as [Feature #5653].
I heard that he dislikes class (and other) definitions at arbitrary timing.
I agree that eager loading is safer than lazy loading.

However, lazy loading realize shorter loading time and
it makes development cycle shorter.
It is more important for larger applications as Eregon said in
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/5653#note-39 .
It is especially important when library loading causes I/O (code generation from DB schema).

These two, safety of eager loading and easier development of lazy loading, conflicts.
But if we can distinguish production mode and development mode,
we can enjoy both benefits.

So, I propose a feature to select autoload behavior from two modes:
- autoload behaves as lazy loading as now in development mode
- autoload behaves as eager loading (immediately invokes "require") in production mode.

There are several idea to switch the mode:

- $AUTOLOAD_MODE = :eager or :lazy
- RubyVM.autoload_mode = :eager or :lazy
- ObjectSpace.autoload_mode = :eager or lazy

I'm not sure there is a good enough one in above list, though.



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-02-09 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <redmine.issue-15592.20190207065816@ruby-lang.org>
2019-02-07  6:58 ` [ruby-core:91454] [Ruby trunk Feature#15592] mode that "autoload" behaves "require" immediately akr
2019-02-07 14:35 ` [ruby-core:91472] " merch-redmine
2019-02-07 18:13 ` [ruby-core:91475] " eregontp
2019-02-07 20:21 ` [ruby-core:91477] " fxn
2019-02-07 20:45 ` [ruby-core:91478] " eregontp
2019-02-07 20:47 ` [ruby-core:91479] " eregontp
2019-02-07 20:49 ` [ruby-core:91480] " eregontp
2019-02-07 20:58 ` [ruby-core:91481] " merch-redmine
2019-02-08  0:38 ` [ruby-core:91485] " akr
2019-02-08  6:54 ` [ruby-core:91489] [Ruby trunk Feature#15592] mode where "autoload" behaves like an immediate "require" fxn
2019-02-09 13:36 ` [ruby-core:91501] " akr
2019-02-09 17:47 ` fxn [this message]
2019-02-10 15:20 ` [ruby-core:91504] " Greg.mpls

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