[ruby-core:71630] [Ruby trunk - Feature #11731] [Open] Make ruby gem install to user-directory by default

[ruby-core:71630] [Ruby trunk - Feature #11731] [Open] Make ruby gem install to user-directory by default

[kallisti5]

Issue #11731 has been reported by Alexander von Gluck.

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Feature #11731: Make ruby gem install to user-directory by default
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/11731

* Author: Alexander von Gluck
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
* Assignee: 
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Installing gem's system-wide doesn't make sense 99% of the time...

* Linux -- Need root access via sudo
* Windows -- Need administrator
* Max OS X -- Need root access via sudo
* Haiku -- /boot/system read-only

gem currently installs gems system-wide by default

Since the most common use-case is to install gems for your own
user, why doesn't gem --user-directory by default?

Tools like rvm already set this manually.

Making --user-directory default means package maintainers only
need to --no-user-directory while everyone else just gem install's



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[ruby-core:71631] [Ruby trunk - Feature #11731] Make ruby gem install to user-directory by default

[kallisti5]

Issue #11731 has been updated by Alexander von Gluck.


There would be a few minor logic issues around gem looking for --install-dir + --user-directory  and erroring out... that check would need to be changed to --no-user-directory + --install-dir

This definitely would need some discussion as it has a moderate scope (which tools using gem expect system-wide installation?)

To keep compatibility in logic, gem might need to detect the root/administrator user and install system-wide by default to ensure when someone sudo gem install XXX the gem isn't *just* installed for the root user.

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Feature #11731: Make ruby gem install to user-directory by default
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/11731#change-55031

* Author: Alexander von Gluck
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
* Assignee: 
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Installing gem's system-wide doesn't make sense 99% of the time...

* Linux -- Need root access via sudo
* Windows -- Need administrator
* Max OS X -- Need root access via sudo
* Haiku -- /boot/system read-only

gem currently installs gems system-wide by default

Since the most common use-case is to install gems for your own
user, why doesn't gem --user-directory by default?

Tools like rvm already set this manually.

Making --user-directory default means package maintainers only
need to --no-user-directory while everyone else just gem install's



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https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

[ruby-core:71632] [Ruby trunk - Feature #11731] Make ruby gem install to user-directory by default

[mike]

Issue #11731 has been updated by Mike Pastore.


Aren't most people using rvm or rbenv/bundler to address this need? 

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Feature #11731: Make ruby gem install to user-directory by default
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/11731#change-55032

* Author: Alexander von Gluck
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
* Assignee: 
----------------------------------------
Installing gem's system-wide doesn't make sense 99% of the time...

* Linux -- Need root access via sudo
* Windows -- Need administrator
* Max OS X -- Need root access via sudo
* Haiku -- /boot/system read-only

gem currently installs gems system-wide by default

Since the most common use-case is to install gems for your own
user, why doesn't gem --user-directory by default?

Tools like rvm already set this manually.

Making --user-directory default means package maintainers only
need to --no-user-directory while everyone else just gem install's



-- 
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

[ruby-core:71633] [Ruby trunk - Feature #11731] Make ruby gem install to user-directory by default

[kallisti5]

Issue #11731 has been updated by Alexander von Gluck.


yeah, the large number of workarounds show this is a pretty default workflow for people. Thus raises the question on why it isn't the default behavior.

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Feature #11731: Make ruby gem install to user-directory by default
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/11731#change-55033

* Author: Alexander von Gluck
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
* Assignee: 
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Installing gem's system-wide doesn't make sense 99% of the time...

* Linux -- Need root access via sudo
* Windows -- Need administrator
* Max OS X -- Need root access via sudo
* Haiku -- /boot/system read-only

gem currently installs gems system-wide by default

Since the most common use-case is to install gems for your own
user, why doesn't gem --user-directory by default?

Tools like rvm already set this manually.

Making --user-directory default means package maintainers only
need to --no-user-directory while everyone else just gem install's



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https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

[ruby-core:71634] Re: [Ruby trunk - Feature #11731] Make ruby gem install to user-directory by default

[Matthew Kerwin]

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On 23 November 2015 at 08:56, <kallisti5@unixzen.com> wrote:

> Issue #11731 has been updated by Alexander von Gluck.
>
>
> yeah, the large number of workarounds show this is a pretty default
> workflow for people. Thus raises the question on why it isn't the default
> behavior.
>
>
​Opinion, not fact: is it not the case that most folk who develop
independently usually do so where they either a) use rbenv or b) own the
machine and can `sudo` safely? And by contrast, the people who can't do
that are usually in corporate environments where site-wide installation
makes most sense?

Note that rbenv isn't just a workaround for this, it also allows
independent installation of entire Ruby environments, including
core/stdlib, parser, etc. So I don't know that we can say that there's
necessarily a large number of workarounds just for local gems.

-- 
  Matthew Kerwin
  http://matthew.kerwin.net.au/

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[ruby-core:71636] [Ruby trunk - Feature #11731] Make ruby gem install to user-install by default

[kallisti5]

Issue #11731 has been updated by Alexander von Gluck.

Subject changed from Make ruby gem install to user-directory by default to Make ruby gem install to user-install by default

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Feature #11731: Make ruby gem install to user-install by default
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/11731#change-55036

* Author: Alexander von Gluck
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
* Assignee: 
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Installing gem's system-wide doesn't make sense 99% of the time...

* Linux -- Need root access via sudo
* Windows -- Need administrator
* Max OS X -- Need root access via sudo
* Haiku -- /boot/system read-only

gem currently installs gems system-wide by default

Since the most common use-case is to install gems for your own
user, why doesn't gem --user-directory by default?

Tools like rvm already set this manually.

Making --user-directory default means package maintainers only
need to --no-user-directory while everyone else just gem install's



-- 
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

[ruby-core:71637] [Ruby trunk - Feature #11731] Make ruby gem install to user-install by default

[kallisti5]

Issue #11731 has been updated by Alexander von Gluck.


Shouldn't site-wide installations use packaged gem files as they install to /usr?
Installing non-packaged files to /usr violates the LSB.

A few linux distros seem to also set --user-install as default:
  https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/gemrc?h=packages/ruby

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Feature #11731: Make ruby gem install to user-install by default
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/11731#change-55037

* Author: Alexander von Gluck
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
* Assignee: 
----------------------------------------
Installing gem's system-wide doesn't make sense 99% of the time...

* Linux -- Need root access via sudo
* Windows -- Need administrator
* Max OS X -- Need root access via sudo
* Haiku -- /boot/system read-only

gem currently installs gems system-wide by default

Since the most common use-case is to install gems for your own
user, why doesn't gem --user-directory by default?

Tools like rvm already set this manually.

Making --user-directory default means package maintainers only
need to --no-user-directory while everyone else just gem install's



-- 
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

[ruby-core:71638] [Ruby trunk - Feature #11731] [Third Party's Issue] Make ruby gem install to user-install by default

[nobu]

Issue #11731 has been updated by Nobuyoshi Nakada.

Status changed from Open to Third Party's Issue

Rubygems upstream is https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems.

Maybe to fallback to user-install when no permission to the default place.

BTW, is ruby installed under `/boot` filesystem, on Haiku?

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Feature #11731: Make ruby gem install to user-install by default
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/11731#change-55038

* Author: Alexander von Gluck
* Status: Third Party's Issue
* Priority: Normal
* Assignee: 
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Installing gem's system-wide doesn't make sense 99% of the time...

* Linux -- Need root access via sudo
* Windows -- Need administrator
* Max OS X -- Need root access via sudo
* Haiku -- /boot/system read-only

gem currently installs gems system-wide by default

Since the most common use-case is to install gems for your own
user, why doesn't gem --user-directory by default?

Tools like rvm already set this manually.

Making --user-directory default means package maintainers only
need to --no-user-directory while everyone else just gem install's



-- 
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

[ruby-core:71643] [Ruby trunk - Feature #11731] Make ruby gem install to user-install by default

[kallisti5]

Issue #11731 has been updated by Alexander von Gluck.


https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems/issues/1394 opened to track.  Sorry for putting it in the wrong place.

Haiku is a little special.  /boot represents the os "boot" drive (and not where only the kernel lives)
https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/filesystem-layout.html

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Feature #11731: Make ruby gem install to user-install by default
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/11731#change-55045

* Author: Alexander von Gluck
* Status: Third Party's Issue
* Priority: Normal
* Assignee: 
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Installing gem's system-wide doesn't make sense 99% of the time...

* Linux -- Need root access via sudo
* Windows -- Need administrator
* Max OS X -- Need root access via sudo
* Haiku -- /boot/system read-only

gem currently installs gems system-wide by default

Since the most common use-case is to install gems for your own
user, why doesn't gem --user-directory by default?

Tools like rvm already set this manually.

Making --user-directory default means package maintainers only
need to --no-user-directory while everyone else just gem install's



-- 
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/