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From: Eric Wong via ruby-core <ruby-core@ml.ruby-lang.org>
To: ruby-core@ml.ruby-lang.org
Cc: Eric Wong <normalperson@yhbt.net>
Subject: [ruby-core:116211] Re: [Ruby master Feature#19057] Hide implementation of `rb_io_t`.
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 03:23:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240115032334.M189373@dcvr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <redmine.journal-106214.20240114033057.3344@ruby-lang.org>

"ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@ml.ruby-lang.org> wrote:
> - unicorn has merged a fix but it is not released: https://yhbt.net/unicorn.git/63c85c4282d15e22bd32a905883d2d0e149619d1/s/
> - kgio has merged a fix but it is not released: https://yhbt.net/kgio.git/dbf5290cf9f89174f6b35a597af9a4226633d79b/s/
> - raindrops merged a fix but it is not released: https://yhbt.net/raindrops.git/b3212417cc3e7cc44aa9e1ffe89b0d62ef3fdab5/s/

Still working on writing release notes and docs.
<snip> sharing common struct fields example (more below)

> However, we are not 100% confident this is safe according to
> the C specification. My experience is not sufficiently wide to
> say this is safe in practice, but it does look okay to both
> myself, and @Eregon + @tenderlovemaking have both given some
> kind of approval.
> 
> That being said, maybe it's not safe.

It's safe.  Normal (unpacked) C structs have a well-defined and
stable ABI.  Ruby has been relying on it with RVALUE union and
RBasic->flags for decades.  FFI users all rely on this C ABI
stability for calling C code w/o a C compiler.

gcc and clang have a __transparent_union__ attribute designed
to make migrations like this easy and painless for old code.

rb_io_descriptor also introduces extra function call overhead.
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-15  1:54 [ruby-core:110300] [Ruby master Bug#19057] Hide implementation of `rb_io_t` ioquatix (Samuel Williams)
2022-10-15  2:12 ` [ruby-core:110301] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams)
2022-10-15 11:02 ` [ruby-core:110309] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
2022-10-17  7:07 ` [ruby-core:110348] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams)
2023-05-27  8:49 ` [ruby-core:113678] [Ruby master Feature#19057] " kjtsanaktsidis (KJ Tsanaktsidis) via ruby-core
2023-05-27  9:58 ` [ruby-core:113680] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze) via ruby-core
2023-05-27 10:12 ` [ruby-core:113681] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core
2023-05-28  2:19 ` [ruby-core:113689] " ianks (Ian Ker-Seymer) via ruby-core
2023-05-29  9:15 ` [ruby-core:113696] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze) via ruby-core
2023-05-30  1:04 ` [ruby-core:113698] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core
2023-06-01  0:52 ` [ruby-core:113723] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core
2023-06-01  9:56 ` [ruby-core:113728] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze) via ruby-core
2023-06-01 11:11 ` [ruby-core:113731] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core
2023-06-08  2:39 ` [ruby-core:113802] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core
2023-06-09  8:14 ` [ruby-core:113844] " byroot (Jean Boussier) via ruby-core
2023-06-09  8:33 ` [ruby-core:113845] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core
2023-06-23 10:36 ` [ruby-core:114014] " kamil-gwozdz via ruby-core
2023-07-07  0:41 ` [ruby-core:114104] " k0kubun (Takashi Kokubun) via ruby-core
2023-07-07  2:04 ` [ruby-core:114106] " nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core
2023-07-26 22:23 ` [ruby-core:114298] " k0kubun (Takashi Kokubun) via ruby-core
2023-08-24 13:41 ` [ruby-core:114491] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core
2023-08-25  1:07 ` [ruby-core:114521] " naruse (Yui NARUSE) via ruby-core
2023-08-25  1:43 ` [ruby-core:114522] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core
2023-09-05  9:24 ` [ruby-core:114627] " byroot (Jean Boussier) via ruby-core
2024-01-14  3:20 ` [ruby-core:116197] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core
2024-01-14  3:30 ` [ruby-core:116198] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core
2024-01-15  3:23   ` Eric Wong via ruby-core [this message]
2024-01-15  5:49 ` [ruby-core:116213] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core
2024-01-23 12:56   ` [ruby-core:116377] " Eric Wong via ruby-core
2024-01-23 13:44 ` [ruby-core:116379] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze) via ruby-core
2024-01-24  1:03   ` [ruby-core:116389] " Eric Wong via ruby-core
2024-03-18  1:58 ` [ruby-core:117204] " mame (Yusuke Endoh) via ruby-core
2024-03-18  5:22 ` [ruby-core:117206] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core
2024-03-18  7:43 ` [ruby-core:117207] " byroot (Jean Boussier) via ruby-core
2024-03-18  8:03 ` [ruby-core:117208] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core
2024-03-19  2:35 ` [ruby-core:117220] " mame (Yusuke Endoh) via ruby-core
2024-03-23 18:23   ` [ruby-core:117298] " Eric Wong via ruby-core
2024-03-19  3:07 ` [ruby-core:117224] " matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto) via ruby-core
2024-03-19  9:33 ` [ruby-core:117226] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core
2024-03-19 10:56 ` [ruby-core:117228] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core
2024-03-19 11:44 ` [ruby-core:117229] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze) via ruby-core
2024-03-19 12:33 ` [ruby-core:117230] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core
2024-03-20 13:02 ` [ruby-core:117262] " mame (Yusuke Endoh) via ruby-core
2024-03-20 18:40 ` [ruby-core:117267] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze) via ruby-core
2024-03-22  2:28 ` [ruby-core:117289] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core
2024-03-22  3:55 ` [ruby-core:117290] " k0kubun (Takashi Kokubun) via ruby-core
2024-03-23 21:49 ` [ruby-core:117300] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core
2024-03-28  8:32   ` [ruby-core:117361] " Eric Wong via ruby-core
2024-03-24  4:45 ` [ruby-core:117301] " mame (Yusuke Endoh) via ruby-core
2024-03-25  8:28 ` [ruby-core:117310] " byroot (Jean Boussier) via ruby-core

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