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From: Eric Wong <normalperson@yhbt.net>
To: Ruby developers <ruby-core@ruby-lang.org>
Subject: [ruby-core:66358] Re: [ruby-trunk - Bug #10460] Segfault instead of stack level too deep
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 07:51:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141119075138.GA14300@dcvr.yhbt.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <redmine.journal-49999.20141118135339.5773a1bff297a9e5@ruby-lang.org>

arne@arnebrasseur.net wrote:
> Was it rude to set this as "Priority: High"? A random segfault seems
> important but it also seems very few tickets are actually marked as
> high priority.

I don't think it is rude to set "Priority: High", but I don't care much
for "formal" ticket tracking, either.  I will work on issues which
interest me.  (I don't speak for the rest of ruby-core)

To me, segfaults in normal/otherwise-working code are important.
However, this issues with stack overflows, your code is still
broken even if we avoid segfaults and raise.

Ruby is trying to be nice about reporting the error; but in the end,
your code is still broken if it overflows stack.

So we make a minor effort to report small overflows, but (as you can see
from this ticket), it is highly sensitive to compiler and platform
changes; and big overflows are not caught.

We may increase the size of the guard area; but that costs memory.
Right now, on (most) Linux systems, this guard costs 4K (one page)
per-thread.  Increasing it may help with reporting, but your code
is still broken; and you penalize the majority of users who do not
overflow stack.

I suspect more users care about memory usage than getting a proper
error on broken code.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-19  8:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <redmine.issue-10460.20141030131734@ruby-lang.org>
2014-10-30 13:17 ` [ruby-core:66023] [ruby-trunk - Bug #10460] [Open] Segfault instead of stack level too deep arne
2014-11-04  9:43 ` [ruby-core:66075] [ruby-trunk - Bug #10460] " arne
2014-11-12  4:17 ` [ruby-core:66219] " a_lamothe
2014-11-18 13:53 ` [ruby-core:66345] " arne
2014-11-19  7:51   ` Eric Wong [this message]
2014-11-19  7:58 ` [ruby-core:66359] " normalperson
2014-11-19 21:13 ` [ruby-core:66365] " arne
2014-11-19 21:26   ` [ruby-core:66366] " Eric Wong
2014-11-19 21:28 ` [ruby-core:66367] " normalperson
2014-11-26 22:33 ` [ruby-core:66497] " andrewm.bpi
2014-11-27 11:23 ` [ruby-core:66520] " ko1
2014-12-03 13:58 ` [ruby-core:66659] " v.ondruch
2014-12-21  1:06 ` [ruby-core:67009] " nobu
2015-02-09 14:17 ` [ruby-core:68074] [Ruby trunk " arne
2015-06-26 10:16 ` [ruby-core:69742] " contact
2019-08-21  3:52 ` [ruby-core:94454] [Ruby master Bug#10460] " merch-redmine

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