From: Whistler <whistler_wmz@163.com>
To: felicien@gnu.org
Cc: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org, info@minifree.org
Subject: Re: RYF can, and should, be improved
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2022 11:05:35 +0800 (CST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7c4b1697.144b.17e327faf16.Coremail.whistler_wmz@163.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f796481c-f392-be89-2845-e9caea57e431@rixotstudio.cz>
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Well, maybe those users will just stick with proprietary firmware if not allowed to 'create a setup that is less free than the default one in osboot'.
sadly not everyone agrees with the ideas of free software (and probably the ideas of free software is currently still not accepted by the majority of the world). Maybe it's better to attract more users than just let them stick with proprietary firmwares.
The point might be not to 'encourage' people to use more proprietary stuff, and not to consider proprietary stuff as a 'positive' thing.
>On 1/6/22 13:40, Félicien Pillot wrote:
>> However I'm not comfortable with this argument from
>> https://osboot.org/news/policy.html#configuration :
>>> It’s natural that the user may want to create a setup that is less
>>> free than the default one in osboot. This is perfectly acceptable;
>>> freedom is superior, and should be encouraged, but the user’s freedom
>>> to choose should also be respected, and accomodated.
>> Saying that, you go in the opposite way the FSDG does: it looks like
>> you're ok with distributing non-free software, just in case if the user
>> would like it better... I know we aren't talking about software, but
>> this distinction is not clear for everyone (including me). Anyway, the
>> word "accomodated" can be a source of debate.
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Well, maybe those users will just stick with proprietary firmware if
not allowed to 'create a setup that is less free than the default one
in osboot'.
sadly not everyone agrees with the ideas of free software (and probably
the ideas of free software is currently still not accepted by the
majority of the world). Maybe it's better to attract more users than
just let them stick with proprietary firmwares.
The point might be not to 'encourage' people to use more proprietary
stuff, and not to consider proprietary stuff as a 'positive' thing.
>On 1/6/22 13:40, F锟斤拷licien Pillot wrote:
>> However I'm not comfortable with this argument from
>> https://osboot.org/news/policy.html#configuration :
>>> It锟斤拷s natural that the user may want to create a setup that is less
>>> free than the default one in osboot. This is perfectly acceptable;
>>> freedom is superior, and should be encouraged, but the user锟斤拷s freedom
>>> to choose should also be respected, and accomodated.
>> Saying that, you go in the opposite way the FSDG does: it looks like
>> you're ok with distributing non-free software, just in case if the user
>> would like it better... I know we aren't talking about software, but
>> this distinction is not clear for everyone (including me). Anyway, the
>> word "accomodated" can be a source of debate.
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Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-05 2:12 RYF can, and should, be improved Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
2022-01-05 7:49 ` Jean Louis
2022-01-05 22:40 ` Andrea Laisa
2022-01-06 12:40 ` Félicien Pillot
2022-01-06 12:56 ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-01-07 3:05 ` Whistler [this message]
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