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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 2/8] nptl: Add C11 threads mtx_* functions
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 20:39:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ce5f3a1e-7598-2fa8-6038-86628293bc9b@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4be08a33-8957-0494-857b-5c26869778b1@linaro.org>

On 07/10/2018 02:35 PM, Adhemerval Zanella wrote:
> 
> 
> On 06/07/2018 09:51, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> On 02/02/2018 06:04 PM, Adhemerval Zanella wrote:
>>> This patch adds the mtx_* definitions from C11 threads (ISO/IEC 9899:2011),
>>> more specifically mtx_init, mtx_destroy, mtx_lock, mtx_timedlock, mtx_trylock,
>>> mtx_unlock, and required types.
>>>
>>> Mostly of the definitions are composed based on POSIX conterparts, and mtx_t
>>> is also based on internal pthread fields, but with a distinct internal layout
>>> to avoid possible issues with code interchange (such as trying to pass POSIX
>>> structure on C11 functions and to avoid inclusion of pthread.h).  The idea
>>> is to make possible to share POSIX internal implementations for mostly of
>>> the code (and making adjustment only when required).
>>
>> Should we check for the supported mutex types and error out if the type does not match?  The interface does not support the full range of error codes required by robust mutexes, for example—EOWNERDEAD is missing.
>>
> 
> I am not sure if adding extra tests will yield any gain, specially on mutex
> operations which users would expect optimized fast paths.  I really think
> we should handle as undefined behaviour if uses try to use pthread_t objects
> with c11 threads function (in similar manner it is undefined behaviour if
> uses messes with internal pthread_mutex_t objects data directly).

Some people might be tempted to use the C11 interfaces to avoid the 
(formal) namespace violations of the POSIX functions, but still stick to 
the underlying POSIX objects for type compatibility on other interfaces.

But I think we can clearly document that they shouldn't do this.

I'm concerned about this because in the future, we might compile the 
implementations to remove checks that are not needed for the C11 
implementations.

Thanks,
Florian

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-12 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-02 17:04 [PATCH v8 0/8] Add support for ISO C threads.h Adhemerval Zanella
2018-02-02 17:04 ` [PATCH v8 1/8] nptl: Add C11 threads thrd_* functions Adhemerval Zanella
2018-02-08 13:49   ` Gabriel F. T. Gomes
2018-02-09 10:56     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-02-26 12:28       ` Gabriel F. T. Gomes
2018-07-06 12:46   ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-10 19:26     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-11 15:49       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2018-07-11 16:24         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-12 12:18           ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-12 17:38             ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-13  7:03               ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-12 16:46   ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-12 17:52     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-12 18:24       ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-12 19:19         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-12 19:26           ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-12 19:41             ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-12 19:32       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-12 19:35         ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-12 19:43           ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-13  9:45   ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-13 12:59     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-13 13:04       ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-13 13:18         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-13 13:21           ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-13  9:48   ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-25  7:20   ` Andreas Schwab
2018-07-25  7:38     ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-25 10:29     ` Joseph Myers
2018-02-02 17:04 ` [PATCH v8 2/8] nptl: Add C11 threads mtx_* functions Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-06 12:51   ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-10 12:35     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-12 18:39       ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2018-07-12 20:30         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-12 20:38           ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-13 13:08             ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-13 13:10               ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-24 12:04   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-24 16:04     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-02-02 17:04 ` [PATCH v8 3/8] nptl: Add C11 threads call_once functions Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-13  9:32   ` Florian Weimer
2018-02-02 17:04 ` [PATCH v8 4/8] nptl: Add C11 threads cnd_* functions Adhemerval Zanella
2018-02-02 17:04 ` [PATCH v8 5/8] nptl: Add C11 threads tss_* functions Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-12 16:48   ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-12 20:32     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-12 20:37       ` Florian Weimer
2018-02-02 17:04 ` [PATCH v8 6/8] nptl: Add abilist symbols for C11 threads Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-13  9:50   ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-13 15:49     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-13 17:49       ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-13 18:47         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-13 19:56           ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-13 21:09             ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-14 13:50               ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-18 17:40         ` Joseph Myers
2018-07-18 20:02           ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-18 21:19           ` Florian Weimer
2018-02-02 17:04 ` [PATCH v8 7/8] nptl: Add test cases for ISO " Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-13  9:31   ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-13 13:10     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-13 13:11       ` Florian Weimer
2018-07-13 13:29         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-17 13:53           ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-02-02 17:04 ` [PATCH v8 8/8] Add manual documentation for threads.h Adhemerval Zanella
2018-06-27 13:39 ` [PATCH v8 0/8] Add support for ISO C threads.h Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-19 17:46   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-19 18:43     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-07-19 19:12       ` Rical Jasan
2018-07-19 19:58         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-21  0:26           ` Rical Jasan
2018-07-21  2:11             ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-07-21  6:22               ` Rical Jasan
2018-07-21 13:40                 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-19 21:26       ` Joseph Myers
2018-07-20 12:32         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-07-20 13:22           ` Rical Jasan
2018-07-20 13:54             ` Rical Jasan
2018-07-20 14:04               ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-07-20 15:02             ` [PATCH v8 0/8] Add support for ISO C threads.h [thrd_exit] Rical Jasan

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