From: "H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/1] <sys/tagged-address.h>: An API for tagged address
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 06:40:07 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMe9rOoADoJtD-nV=zj1duPRz383FFawk1msk4xB+7=q=2jOfw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fsv0se5s.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 2:28 AM Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> * H. J. Lu:
>
> > By default, the number of the address bits used in address translation
> > is the number of address bits. But it can be changed by ARM Top-byte
> > Ignore (TBI) or Intel Linear Address Masking (LAM).
>
> I think the fundamental concern is that we don't really know today how
> this API would be used. Szabolcs has said that Arm doesn't need this
> API for HWSAN. TBI has already other (incompatible) users, I think.
> (Although OpenJDK's ZGC garbage collector has moved off it.)
>
> My concern is that this interface essentialyl sets in stone a certain
> programming model for LAM, and we really don't know today if that's the
> right approach.
My current API has only set_translated_address_mask to enable LAM.
It doesn't specify/know how LAM is used. I don't see there is an issue
here.
> I also expect that HWSAN needs to poke at glibc internals, like the
> other sanitizers, so I don't see why calling a kernel API behind glibc's
> back would be problematic.
The LAM enabled glibc should support all LAM usages. memmove
needs to know the LAM bits to work properly.
> As a side effect of the libpthread merge, we freed DF_1_INITFIRST for
> other uses, so you should be able to work around initialization ordering
> issues, too.
The issue here is that LAM should only be enabled ONCE before main
and thread creation. Neither DF_1_INITFIRST nor kernel API can properly
enforce it.
--
H.J.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-23 13:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-22 12:45 [PATCH v6 0/1] RFC: Add <sys/tagged-address.h> H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2021-08-22 12:45 ` [PATCH v6 1/1] <sys/tagged-address.h>: An API for tagged address H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2021-08-23 9:28 ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2021-08-23 13:40 ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha [this message]
2021-08-23 13:49 ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2021-08-23 14:15 ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2021-09-03 9:12 ` Szabolcs Nagy via Libc-alpha
2021-09-03 13:58 ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2021-09-06 8:52 ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2021-09-06 13:34 ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2021-09-17 10:19 ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
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