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From: Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
To: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org, Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/1] <sys/tagged-address.h>: An API for tagged address
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 11:28:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fsv0se5s.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210822124546.154232-2-hjl.tools@gmail.com> (H. J. Lu's message of "Sun, 22 Aug 2021 05:45:46 -0700")

* H. J. Lu:

> By default, the number of the address bits used in address translation
> is the number of address bits.  But it can be changed by ARM Top-byte
> Ignore (TBI) or Intel Linear Address Masking (LAM).

I think the fundamental concern is that we don't really know today how
this API would be used.  Szabolcs has said that Arm doesn't need this
API for HWSAN.  TBI has already other (incompatible) users, I think.
(Although OpenJDK's ZGC garbage collector has moved off it.)

My concern is that this interface essentialyl sets in stone a certain
programming model for LAM, and we really don't know today if that's the
right approach.

I also expect that HWSAN needs to poke at glibc internals, like the
other sanitizers, so I don't see why calling a kernel API behind glibc's
back would be problematic.

As a side effect of the libpthread merge, we freed DF_1_INITFIRST for
other uses, so you should be able to work around initialization ordering
issues, too.

Thanks,
Florian


  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-23  9:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-22 12:45 [PATCH v6 0/1] RFC: Add <sys/tagged-address.h> H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2021-08-22 12:45 ` [PATCH v6 1/1] <sys/tagged-address.h>: An API for tagged address H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2021-08-23  9:28   ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha [this message]
2021-08-23 13:40     ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2021-08-23 13:49       ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2021-08-23 14:15         ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2021-09-03  9:12           ` Szabolcs Nagy via Libc-alpha
2021-09-03 13:58             ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2021-09-06  8:52               ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2021-09-06 13:34                 ` H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha
2021-09-17 10:19                   ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha

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