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From: Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
To: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] manual: Document __libc_single_threaded
Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 15:44:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k115768f.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200521133046.GH14130@arm.com> (Szabolcs Nagy's message of "Thu, 21 May 2020 14:30:46 +0100")

* Szabolcs Nagy:

> The 05/21/2020 10:15, Adhemerval Zanella wrote:
>> On 21/05/2020 10:09, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
>> > The 05/21/2020 09:50, Adhemerval Zanella via Libc-alpha wrote:
>> >> On 20/05/2020 15:12, Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> +@smallexample
>> >>> +if (__libc_single_threaded)
>> >>> +  atomic_fetch_add (&reference_count, 1, memory_order_relaxed);
>> >>> +else
>> >>> +  atomic_fetch_add (&reference_count, 1, memory_order_acq_rel);
>> >>> +@end smallexample
>> >>
>> >> Shouldn't the access to __libc_single_threaded be atomic itself
>> >> (at least with relaxed semantic)?
>> > 
>> > not if we guarantee that this object can only be
>> > written while the process is single threaded.
>> > 
>> > (e.g. an exiting detached thread cannot update it
>> > even if only one thread left.. because that may
>> > concurrently read it)
>> > 
>> 
>> OK, so I think we should outline that atomic operations are not required 
>> to acess this object and that once __libc_single_threaded is set 0 it will 
>> continue to indicate non-single thread even thread are jointed or detached 
>> thread finishes.
>
> what's wrong with pthread_join updating it?

It's tricky do it correctly if there are two remaining threads, one of
them the one being joined, the other one a detached thread.  A
straightforward implementation merely looking at __nptl_nthreads before
returning from pthread_join would not perform the required
synchronization on the detached thread exit.

Thanks,
Florian


  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-21 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-20 18:12 [PATCH 0/2] Add __libc_single_threaded Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-05-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 1/2] Add the __libc_single_threaded variable Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-05-21 13:07   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-05-21 13:16     ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-05-21 13:26       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-05-20 18:12 ` [PATCH 2/2] manual: Document __libc_single_threaded Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-05-21  7:52   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) via Libc-alpha
2020-05-21 12:17     ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-05-21 11:18   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-05-21 12:16     ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-05-21 12:50   ` Adhemerval Zanella via Libc-alpha
2020-05-21 13:09     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-05-21 13:15       ` Adhemerval Zanella via Libc-alpha
2020-05-21 13:30         ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-05-21 13:44           ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha [this message]
2020-05-21 13:58             ` Adhemerval Zanella via Libc-alpha
2020-05-21 14:03               ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-05-22 10:01             ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-05-22 10:05               ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-05-22 10:54                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-05-22 11:08                   ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-05-22 15:07                   ` Rich Felker
2020-05-22 16:14                     ` Rich Felker
2020-05-22 16:36                       ` Adhemerval Zanella via Libc-alpha
2020-05-22 17:02                       ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-05-22 17:18                         ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-05-22 17:28                         ` Rich Felker
2020-05-22 17:40                           ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-05-22 17:49                             ` Rich Felker
2020-05-22 19:22                               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-05-22 19:53                                 ` Rich Felker
2020-05-23  6:49                                   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-05-23 16:02                                     ` Rich Felker
2020-05-25  8:08                                       ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-05-25 17:21                                         ` Rich Felker
2020-05-27 11:54                                           ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-05-27 15:36                                             ` Rich Felker
2020-06-03 15:00                                               ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-06-03 17:11                                                 ` Rich Felker
2020-05-25  8:08                                       ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-05-21 13:56           ` Adhemerval Zanella via Libc-alpha
2020-05-21 13:14     ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-05-21 14:32       ` Adhemerval Zanella via Libc-alpha
2020-06-03 15:48         ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2020-06-03 17:52           ` Adhemerval Zanella via Libc-alpha

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