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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: "Zack Weinberg" <zack@owlfolio.org>
Cc: "Rich Felker" <dalias@libc.org>,
	 "Gabriel Ravier" <gabravier@gmail.com>,
	 "Skyler Ferrante (RIT Student)" <sjf5462@rit.edu>,
	musl@lists.openwall.com,  "Andreas Schwab" <schwab@suse.de>,
	 "Alejandro Colomar" <alx@kernel.org>,
	 "Thorsten Glaser" <tg@mirbsd.de>,  NRK <nrk@disroot.org>,
	 "Guillem Jover" <guillem@hadrons.org>,
	 "GNU libc development" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	 libbsd@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	 "Iker Pedrosa" <ipedrosa@redhat.com>,
	 "Christian Brauner" <christian@brauner.io>
Subject: Re: [musl] Re: Tweaking the program name for <err.h> functions
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 09:28:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87il1qsfhk.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <180c5e67-5e97-4ac8-ab7c-696d2aa865ed@app.fastmail.com> (Zack Weinberg's message of "Tue, 12 Mar 2024 15:25:31 -0400")

* Zack Weinberg:

> I do fully agree that this is a design error in NFS and in close(2)
> more generally [like all destructors, it should be _impossible_ for
> close to fail], but there is no realistic prospect of changing it, and
> I've been burned a few times by programs that didn't notice delayed
> write errors.

There is fsync to avoid delayed write errors.  Historically, it's been
very bad for performance.  What coreutils et al. aim to do is to deal
with non-catastrophic failures (mainly out of space errors) without
incurring the fsync overhead.

Thanks,
Florian


      parent reply	other threads:[~2024-03-13  8:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-07 22:24 Tweaking the program name for <err.h> functions Alejandro Colomar
2024-03-08  0:30 ` Guillem Jover
2024-03-08  0:47   ` enh
2024-03-08  0:52   ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-03-09 15:02     ` [musl] " Rich Felker
2024-03-09 15:49       ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-03-09 18:35         ` Andreas Schwab
2024-03-09 18:46           ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-03-09 19:18             ` [musl] " Markus Wichmann
2024-03-09 19:25             ` Rich Felker
2024-03-09 21:44         ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-10  6:01         ` NRK
2024-03-10 13:17           ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-03-10 14:01             ` NRK
2024-03-10 19:39               ` Rich Felker
2024-03-10 22:25                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-03-10 23:22                 ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-10 23:44                   ` Rich Felker
2024-03-11  0:19                     ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-11  0:46                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-03-11 14:46                         ` Skyler Ferrante (RIT Student)
2024-03-11 15:09                           ` Andreas Schwab
2024-03-11 15:30                             ` Skyler Ferrante (RIT Student)
2024-03-11 18:23                               ` Florian Weimer
2024-03-11 18:48                                 ` Skyler Ferrante (RIT Student)
2024-03-11 19:05                                   ` enh
2024-03-11 19:44                                     ` Rich Felker
2024-03-11 20:35                                       ` enh
2024-03-11 19:47                               ` Rich Felker
2024-03-11 20:08                                 ` Skyler Ferrante (RIT Student)
2024-03-11 20:39                                   ` enh
2024-03-11 21:21                                 ` Laurent Bercot
2024-03-11 22:05                                 ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-03-12  0:18                                 ` Gabriel Ravier
2024-03-12  0:43                                   ` Rich Felker
2024-03-12  3:23                                     ` Gabriel Ravier
2024-03-12 14:44                                       ` Rich Felker
2024-03-12 13:54                                   ` Florian Weimer
2024-03-12 14:21                                     ` Zack Weinberg
2024-03-12 14:31                                       ` Florian Weimer
2024-03-12 14:42                                         ` Rich Felker
2024-03-12 19:25                                           ` Zack Weinberg
2024-03-12 21:19                                             ` Rich Felker
2024-03-13  8:28                                             ` Florian Weimer [this message]

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