From: Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
To: Huang Shijie <shijie@os.amperecomputing.com>
Cc: zwang@amperecomputing.com,
Huang Shijie via Libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
patches@amperecomputing.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add LD_NUMA_REPLICATION for glibc
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 13:01:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878s04k82t.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YTnfnSpCNJK+ZO/Y@hsj> (Huang Shijie's message of "Thu, 9 Sep 2021 10:19:09 +0000")
* Huang Shijie:
> Hi Florian,
> On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 08:28:57AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> * Huang Shijie via Libc-alpha:
>>
>> > This patch adds LD_NUMA_REPLICATION which influences the linkage of shared libraries at run time.
>> >
>> > If LD_NUMA_REPLICATION is set for program foo like this:
>> > #LD_NUMA_REPLICATION=1 ./foo
>> >
>> > At the time ld.so mmaps the shared libraries, it will uses
>> > mmap(, c->prot | PROT_WRITE, MAP_COPY | MAP_FILE | MAP_POPULATE,)
>> > for them, and the mmap will trigger COW(copy on write) for the shared
>> > libraries at the NUMA node which the program `foo` runs. After the
>> > COW, the foo will have a copy of the shared library segment(mmap
>> > covered) which belong to the same NUMA node.
>> >
>> > So when enable LD_NUMA_REPLICATION, it will consume more memory,
>> > but it will reduce the remote-access in NUMA.
>>
>> I think the kernel could do this in a much better way, avoiding
>> duplicating the pages within the same NUMA node.
>
> https://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=163070220429222&w=2
> Since Linus did not think it a good choice to do it in kernel,
> glibc is the only place to do it now.
> So could you please re-evaluate this patch?
The name of the environment variable is quite misleading. It should
refer to MAP_POPULATE, not NUMA.
As far as I can tell, it does not necessarily have the desired effect
for multi-threaded applications (if some threads end up running on other
NUMA nodes).
And it would be helpful to have some performance numbers.
And I wonder if a FUSE file system could do better, by making one
backing copy per NUMA node instead of one copy per process.
>> The other issue is the temporary RWX mapping, which does not
>> interoperate well with some security hardening features.
> Could you please tell me in detail? I am confused at it.
Some environments block mapping files with PROT_WRITE | PROT_EXEC.
Thanks,
Florian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-10 11:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-09-03 12:14 [PATCH] Add LD_NUMA_REPLICATION for glibc Huang Shijie via Libc-alpha
2021-09-03 6:28 ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha
2021-09-03 15:15 ` Huang Shijie via Libc-alpha
2021-09-03 22:16 ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song) via Libc-alpha
2021-09-06 9:14 ` Huang Shijie via Libc-alpha
2021-09-09 10:19 ` Huang Shijie via Libc-alpha
2021-09-10 11:01 ` Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha [this message]
2021-09-13 14:40 ` Huang Shijie via Libc-alpha
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