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From: Lukasz Majewski <lukma@denx.de>
To: Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Stepan Golosunov <stepan@golosunov.pp.ru>,
	<libc-alpha@sourceware.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] y2038: Introduce __ASSUME_TIME64_SYSCALLS define
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 00:09:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190529000914.2d02c183@jawa> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1905281944000.27415@digraph.polyomino.org.uk>

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Hi Joseph,

> On Sat, 25 May 2019, Stepan Golosunov wrote:
> 
> > In most cases code can look like this:
> > 
> > #ifdef __ASSUME_TIME64_SYSCALLS
> > #ifndef __NR_clock_settime64
> > #define __NR_clock_settime64 __NR_clock_settime
> > #endif
> > INLINE_SYSCALL_CALL (clock_settime64, …)
> > #else
> > try clock_settime64, if that fails (whether compiletime or runtime)
> > convert data to 32-bit, call clock_settime
> > #endif
> > 
> > (Yes, for semtimedop it won't be that simple.  Because traditional
> > syscall isn't semtimedop in some cases.  This also assumes that
> > the  
> 
> If we follow this approach, it would be reasonable to say that 
> __ASSUME_TIME64_SYSCALLS is *only* for those syscalls where the old 
> syscall, on platforms that had 64-bit time in their syscall interface
> all along, is exactly equivalent (and to list that subset) 

Yes, I do agree. Also those syscalls shall be explicitly listed in the
commit message and code (as comments).

> - not for 
> semtimedop.  Then there could be a separate
> __ASSUME_SEMTIMEDOP_TIME64.
> 
> > 20 time64 syscall names won't suddenly be added to kernel headers
> > for 64-bit ABIs.)  
> 
> Rather, that they won't be added *with new syscall numbers*.  If the 
> kernel adds them as macro aliases for the old syscall numbers, code
> like that would work just fine.  If the kernel adds them as new
> syscall numbers, the definition of __ASSUME_TIME64_SYSCALLS (that
> assumes it can always be true for existing 64-bit syscall ABIs) would
> suddenly become wrong when using new kernel headers, because it would
> result in glibc code using new syscall numbers without regard to a
> possibly older runtime kernel version.
> 

Maybe I'm missing something, but would there be any use case
(possibility) that for archs supporting 64 bit time ABI (and using e.g.
__NR_clock_settime now) the new syscalls (like __NR_clock_settime64),
with the same functionality, would be added with different numbers?

Why already perfectly working __NR_clock_settime would be replaced by
other syscall (like __NR_clock_settime64) not with alias but different
number (on e.g x86_64)?

I always thought that __NR_clock_settime64 would be added on archs with
__WORDSIZE==32 to allow them to work after Y2038 and hence there would
be no chance for such collision.


Best regards,

Lukasz Majewski

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-28 22:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-14 22:08 [PATCH 0/6] y2038: Linux: Provide __clock_* functions supporting 64 bit time Lukasz Majewski
2019-04-14 22:08 ` [PATCH 1/6] y2038: Introduce internal for glibc struct __timespec64 Lukasz Majewski
2019-04-14 22:08 ` [PATCH 2/6] y2038: Provide conversion helpers for " Lukasz Majewski
2019-04-14 22:08 ` [PATCH 3/6] y2038: linux: Provide __clock_settime64 implementation Lukasz Majewski
2019-04-17 22:08   ` Joseph Myers
2019-04-18  6:46     ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-04-20  0:20   ` Stepan Golosunov
2019-04-20 11:21     ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-04-22  9:07       ` Stepan Golosunov
2019-04-22 21:45         ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-04-23 15:45           ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-04-14 22:08 ` [PATCH 4/6] y2038: linux: Provide __clock_getres64 implementation Lukasz Majewski
2019-04-14 22:08 ` [PATCH 5/6] y2038: linux: Provide __clock_gettime64 implementation Lukasz Majewski
2019-04-14 22:08 ` [PATCH 6/6] y2038: linux: Provide __clock_nanosleep64 implementation Lukasz Majewski
2019-04-17 22:11   ` Joseph Myers
2019-04-18  5:54     ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-04-29 10:46 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] y2038: Linux: Provide __clock_* functions supporting 64 bit time Lukasz Majewski
2019-04-29 10:46   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] y2038: Introduce internal for glibc struct __timespec64 Lukasz Majewski
2019-04-29 10:46   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] y2038: Introduce __ASSUME_64BIT_TIME define Lukasz Majewski
2019-04-29 21:50     ` Joseph Myers
2019-04-30  9:05       ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-04-30 21:47         ` Stepan Golosunov
2019-05-02  8:51           ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-02 11:54             ` Stepan Golosunov
2019-05-02 13:55               ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-06 13:38                 ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-06 14:26                   ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-06 19:36                     ` Stepan Golosunov
2019-05-06 21:14                       ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-07 20:03                         ` Stepan Golosunov
2019-05-07 20:44                           ` Joseph Myers
2019-05-08  7:51                           ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-08 19:48                             ` Stepan Golosunov
2019-05-09 16:12                               ` Joseph Myers
2019-05-16  4:00                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-05-16 19:54                                 ` Stepan Golosunov
2019-05-16 19:59                                 ` Joseph Myers
2019-05-17  7:23                                   ` Florian Weimer
2019-05-17  8:34                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-05-07 15:43                       ` Joseph Myers
2019-05-02 15:04         ` Joseph Myers
2019-05-05 14:10           ` Stepan Golosunov
2019-05-05 20:46             ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-06 14:56           ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-07 15:35             ` Joseph Myers
2019-05-08 10:18               ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-09 15:46                 ` Joseph Myers
2019-05-15 15:39                   ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-16  3:57                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-05-16  6:58                       ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-31 11:37                 ` Stepan Golosunov
2019-06-05 16:35                   ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-06-06  6:50                     ` Stepan Golosunov
2019-04-29 10:46   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] y2038: Provide conversion helpers for struct __timespec64 Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-02 11:56     ` Stepan Golosunov
2019-05-02 14:17       ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-02 15:59         ` Joseph Myers
2019-05-02 16:19           ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-04-29 10:46   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] y2038: linux: Provide __clock_settime64 implementation Lukasz Majewski
2019-04-29 10:46   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] y2038: linux: Provide __clock_getres64 implementation Lukasz Majewski
2019-04-29 10:46   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] y2038: linux: Provide __clock_gettime64 implementation Lukasz Majewski
2019-04-29 10:46   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] y2038: linux: Provide __clock_nanosleep64 implementation Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-07 13:18 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] y2038: Linux: Provide __clock_settime function supporting 64 bit time Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-07 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 1/5] y2038: Introduce __ASSUME_TIME64_SYSCALLS define Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-07 16:04     ` Joseph Myers
2019-05-07 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 2/5] y2038: Introduce internal for glibc struct __timespec64 Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-07 13:30     ` Andreas Schwab
2019-05-07 14:07       ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-07 14:13         ` Andreas Schwab
2019-05-08  8:32           ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-08  8:38             ` Andreas Schwab
2019-05-08  9:10               ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-08  9:12                 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-05-08  9:37                   ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-07 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 3/5] y2038: Provide conversion helpers for " Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-07 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 4/5] y2038: linux: Provide __clock_settime64 implementation Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-07 16:40     ` Joseph Myers
2019-05-07 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 5/5] y2038: Support for Y2038 safe time on 32 bit systems Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-07 16:37     ` Joseph Myers
2019-05-08 10:27       ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-07 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 0/5] y2038: Linux: Provide __clock_settime function supporting 64 bit time Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-07 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 1/5] y2038: Introduce __ASSUME_TIME64_SYSCALLS define Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-07 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 2/5] y2038: Introduce internal for glibc struct __timespec64 Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-07 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 3/5] y2038: Provide conversion helpers for " Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-07 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 4/5] y2038: linux: Provide __clock_settime64 implementation Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-07 13:18   ` [PATCH v3 5/5] y2038: Support for Y2038 safe time on 32 bit systems Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-07 13:34     ` Andreas Schwab
2019-05-08 15:56 ` [PATCH] y2038: Introduce __ASSUME_TIME64_SYSCALLS define Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-09 15:58   ` Joseph Myers
2019-05-09 16:18     ` Stepan Golosunov
2019-05-15 14:27 ` [PATCH v5] " Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-21 15:15   ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-23  7:34   ` Stepan Golosunov
2019-05-23  9:35     ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-25 16:19       ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-25 19:45       ` Stepan Golosunov
2019-05-26 12:39         ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-28 16:00           ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-28 19:53           ` Joseph Myers
2019-05-28 22:46             ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-28 22:50               ` Joseph Myers
2019-05-28 19:47         ` Joseph Myers
2019-05-28 22:09           ` Lukasz Majewski [this message]
2019-05-28 22:43             ` Joseph Myers
2019-05-23 21:17     ` Joseph Myers
2019-05-20 10:27 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] y2038: Linux: Provide __clock_settime64 function supporting 64 bit time Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-20 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] y2038: Introduce internal for glibc struct __timespec64 Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-20 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] y2038: Provide conversion helpers for " Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-20 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] y2038: linux: Provide __clock_settime64 implementation Lukasz Majewski
2019-05-23  7:08     ` Stepan Golosunov
2019-05-23  9:28       ` Lukasz Majewski

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