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From: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
To: "Zack Weinberg" <zack@owlfolio.org>,
	"Cristian Rodríguez" <cristian@rodriguez.im>,
	"Florian Weimer" <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Wilco Dijkstra <Wilco.Dijkstra@arm.com>,
	GNU libc development <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Add single-threaded fast path to rand()
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 11:46:18 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17ac36a5-d5c0-4f71-8cf3-5eaf014194d6@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f6582f73-e7fc-4d8b-87ac-fd232dd2930c@app.fastmail.com>



On 22/03/24 11:27, Zack Weinberg wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2024, at 11:53 AM, Adhemerval Zanella Netto wrote:
>> And even if arc4random is explicit a non CPRNG, there were some worries that 
>> users might misuse the interface and thus add some security issues.
> 
> No opinion about anything else in this thread, but if we add arc4random at all
> it MUST be a CSPRNG.  That's a documented guarantee on all the systems that
> do have it, and applications rely on it.

Yeah, this is another point of contention where one might consider that a
userland CPRNG that has no feedback from kernel to where/how to properly
reseed might not be considered a CPRNG. 

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-22 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-18 15:20 [PATCH 2/2] Add single-threaded fast path to rand() Wilco Dijkstra
2024-03-18 19:24 ` Cristian Rodríguez
2024-03-19 15:44   ` Wilco Dijkstra
2024-03-20 12:31     ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-03-20 14:18       ` Cristian Rodríguez
2024-03-20 14:27         ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-03-21  7:39           ` Florian Weimer
2024-03-21 13:33             ` Cristian Rodríguez
2024-03-21 14:35               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-03-21 15:07                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-03-21 15:18                   ` Wilco Dijkstra
2024-03-21 15:53               ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-03-22 14:27                 ` Zack Weinberg
2024-03-22 14:46                   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto [this message]
2024-03-22 15:30                     ` Zack Weinberg
2024-03-22 18:05                       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-03-22 19:47                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-03-22 22:54                           ` Cristian Rodríguez
2024-03-23 14:01                           ` Zack Weinberg
2024-03-23 15:23                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-03-25 14:09                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-03-25 17:52                                 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-03-24  0:59                             ` Cristian Rodríguez
2024-03-25  6:44                             ` Florian Weimer
2024-03-20 14:28         ` Wilco Dijkstra
2024-03-20 14:40           ` Xi Ruoyao
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-11-28 17:37 Wilco Dijkstra

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