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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: David Aguilar <davvid@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, gitster@pobox.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add option to git-commit to allow empty log messages
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:53:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <y2j51dd1af81004041653g9a09915el60104c575dcf6481@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100404224324.GB12655@gmail.com>

In retrospect I probably should have sent a [PATCH RFC], this is
obviously somewhat of a delicate subject.

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 21:21, Shawn Pearce <spearce@spearce.org> wrote:
> Isn't this exactly why git-commit-tree exists?  I don't really see a reason
> to support scripting the porcelain git commit.

It's not so much about supporting scripting as exporting the
capabilities of the porcelain to the frontend utilities without
artificial limitations.

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 22:43, David Aguilar <davvid@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 02:49:16PM +0000, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>> Change git-commit(1) to accept a --allow-empty-message option
>> analogous to the existing --allow-empty option which allows empty
>> trees. This is mainly for compatability with foreign SCM systems.
>
> Is there any reason why the git commit-tree plumbing didn't
> suffice?

I encountered this limitation most recently while using hacking
snerp-vortex which uses git-commit(1) directly. While it should
ideally use git-commit-tree(1) or git-fast-import(1) it was easier at
the time to do:

    message ||= "Git made me";

I thought it was silly that I had to either do that to fix an
otherwise working piece of software or rewrite how it does commits,
hence the patch.

> It's hard enough to get co-workers to write good commit
> messages.  I wouldn't want to encourage them to skip writing
> them altogether (by the existence of this feature).

I'm a big fan of good commit messages, that's another reason why I
think this feature is a good idea.

I've read too many commit messages from people who're obviously
determined not to write any, but are being forced to do so by their
tools. Favorites include "more updates", "some changes", "..." (the
list goes on). I'd rather get nothing at all from those people than
more meaningless drivel. It would increase the signal-to-noise ratio
of git-log(1) output.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-04 23:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-03 22:06 Does Git really need a commit message to go with a commit? Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-04-04  1:58 ` Avery Pennarun
     [not found] ` <p2kadf1fd3d1004031526r3beff4e3ldd977dfc7e9da782@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <h2m51dd1af81004040415xc7381f6cp1bf81bcfd684b99d@mail.gmail.com>
2010-04-04 12:37     ` Santi Béjar
2010-04-04 14:49 ` [PATCH] Add option to git-commit to allow empty log messages Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-04-04 22:43   ` David Aguilar
2010-04-04 23:53     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2010-04-05  2:11       ` Junio C Hamano
2010-04-05  2:15         ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-04-05  3:57           ` Junio C Hamano
2010-04-05 14:46             ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-04-05  5:10         ` Miles Bader
2010-04-05  5:27           ` Junio C Hamano
2010-04-05  5:51           ` Jeff King
2010-04-05 12:50             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-04-05 17:58               ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-05 18:11                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-06  5:55                 ` Jeff King
2010-04-06  8:40                   ` [PATCH v2] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-04-07  5:16                     ` Junio C Hamano
2010-04-07 14:28                       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-04-06  8:42                   ` [PATCH] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-04-07 15:09                     ` [PATCH] Remove --allow-empty from the git-commit synopsis Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-04-07 15:29                       ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-04-07 17:28                         ` [PATCH v2] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-04-07 17:52                           ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-04-07 18:17                             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-04-07 18:21                           ` Tay Ray Chuan
2010-04-07 18:48                             ` [PATCH v3] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-04-07 18:55                           ` [PATCH v2] " Johannes Sixt
2010-04-07 19:00                           ` Junio C Hamano
2010-04-07 19:28                             ` [PATCH v4] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2010-04-07 19:45                               ` Stephen Boyd
2010-04-07 22:25                             ` [PATCH v2] " Junio C Hamano
2010-04-08  6:44                               ` Jeff King
2010-04-06  5:43               ` [PATCH] Add option to git-commit to allow empty log messages Jeff King

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