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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "Rubén Justo" <rjusto@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] advice: omit trailing whitespace
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2024 15:20:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqo7auf3h5.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3e35b731-333e-4b46-9c0c-089b5c47fe99@gmail.com> ("Rubén Justo"'s message of "Sun, 31 Mar 2024 10:11:08 +0200")

Rubén Justo <rjusto@gmail.com> writes:

>> > > and move the "hint" literal to the args, to ease the translation work:
>> > > -               fprintf(stderr, _("%shint:%s%.*s%s\n"),
>> > > +               fprintf(stderr, "%s%s:%s%.*s%s\n",
>> > >                         advise_get_color(ADVICE_COLOR_HINT),
>> > > +                       _("hint"),
>> > >                         (np == cp) ? "" : " ",
>> > >                         (int)(np - cp), cp,
>> > >                         advise_get_color(ADVICE_COLOR_RESET));
>> > 
>> > It is not guaranteed that any and all languages want to use a colon
>> > immediately after translation of "hint"; the current message string
>> > with or without my patch allows translators adjust that part to the
>> > target language, but your version will force them to always use only
>> > a colon there.  Is that an improvement?  I somehow do not think so.
>> 
>> I was just thinking if leaving the format open to the translation is a
>> sane option.  Maybe we can move the colon to the literal in the args,
>> too.
>
> Just for the record, zh_CN (Chinese) and zh_TW (Traditional Chinese)
> do not use ':' on its translation, but ':'
>
> So, if we go the way I proposed we'll need to move the ':' too.  I
> still think it's an improvement.  But, optional to this series.

It is making it even worse.

Giving larger unit to work with to translators is usually a better
for i18n than chopping a single logical message into multiple pieces
and paste them together in the code, as your untranslated
format-string (e.g., "%s%s:%s%.*s%s\n" we see above) will force the
word order in the final output.

I think the patch at the beginning of the thread is more than
serviceable, but if we wanted to improve on it, we should go in the
opposite direction, e.g.

	if (np == cp)
		fprintf(stderr, _("%shint:%s\n"),
			advise_get_color(ADVICE_COLOR_HINT),
			advise_get_color(ADVICE_COLOR_RESET));
	else
		fprintf(stderr, _("%shint: %.*s%s\n"),
			advise_get_color(ADVICE_COLOR_HINT),
			(int)(np - cp), cp,
			advise_get_color(ADVICE_COLOR_RESET));

to give translators flexibility to choose what kind of space to use
(including "none") after "hint:".

I am not going to do that, though, until/unless somebody complains
and says "there is no inter-word spaces and it is more customary not
to have a space after the translation of 'hint:' in my language".


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-31 22:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-29 22:57 [PATCH] advice: omit trailing whitespace Junio C Hamano
2024-03-29 23:23 ` Rubén Justo
2024-03-31  6:17   ` Rubén Justo
2024-03-31  6:43     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-31  7:11       ` Rubén Justo
2024-03-31  8:11         ` Rubén Justo
2024-03-31 22:20           ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2024-04-01 20:50             ` Rubén Justo
2024-03-29 23:35 ` Dragan Simic

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