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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	"David Turner" <dturner@twopensource.com>,
	"Eric Sunshine" <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
	"Torsten Bögershausen" <tboegi@web.de>,
	"Christian Couder" <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] config: add core.untrackedCache
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 14:43:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqfuzck1dp.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqsi3ckadi.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (Junio C. Hamano's message of "Tue, 08 Dec 2015 11:28:57 -0800")

Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:

> Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> When we know that mtime is fully supported by the environment, we
>> might want the untracked cache to be always used by default without
>> any mtime test or kernel version check being performed.
>>
>> Also when we know that mtime is not supported by the environment,
>> for example because the repo is shared over a network file system,
>> then we might want 'git update-index --untracked-cache' to fail
>> immediately instead of preforming tests (because it might work on
>> some systems using the repo over the network file system but not
>> others).
>> ...
> The logic in this paragraph is fuzzy to me.  Shouldn't the config
> give a sensible default, that is overriden by command line options?
> I agree that it is insane to do a runtime check when the user says
> "update-index --untracked-cache" to enable it, as the user _knows_
> that enabling it would help (or the user _knows_ that she wants to
> play with it).  Similarly, shouldn't the config be ignored when the
> user says "update-index --no-untracked-cache" (hence removing the
> untracked cache from the resulting index no matter the config is set
> to)?  ...

As I think about this more, it really seems to me that we shouldn't
need to make this configuration variable that special.  Because I
think it is a *BUG* in the current implementation to do the runtime
check even when the user explicitly tells us to use untracked-cache,
I'd imagine something along the lines of the following would be a
lot simpler, easier to understand and a generally more useful
bugfix:

 1 Add one boolean configuration variable, core.untrackedCache, that
   defaults to 'false'.

 2 When creating an index file in an empty repository, enable the
   untracked cache in the index (even without the user runninng
   "update-index --untracked-cache") iff the configuration is set to
   'true'.  No runtime check necessary.

 3 When working on an existing index file, unless the operation is
   "update-index --[no-]untracked-cache", keep the current setting,
   regardless of this configuration variable.  No runtime check
   necessary.

 4 "update-index --[no-]untracked-cache" should enable or disable
   the untracked cache as the user tells us, regardless of the
   configuration variable.  No runtime check necessary.

It is OK to then add an "auto-detect" on top of the above, that
would only affect the second bullet point, like so:

 2a When creating an index file in an empty repository, if the
    configuration is set to 'auto', do the lengthy runtime check and
    enable the untracked cache in the index (even without the user
    runninng "update-index --untracked-cache").

without changing any other in the first 4-bullet list.

Am I missing some other requirements?

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-08 22:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-08 17:15 [PATCH 0/8] Untracked cache improvements Christian Couder
2015-12-08 17:15 ` [PATCH 1/8] update-index: add untracked cache notifications Christian Couder
2015-12-08 19:03   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-11  8:51     ` Christian Couder
2015-12-08 17:15 ` [PATCH 2/8] update-index: use enum for untracked cache options Christian Couder
2015-12-08 19:11   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-10 10:37     ` Christian Couder
2015-12-10 18:46       ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-11  9:10         ` Christian Couder
2015-12-11 17:44           ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-12  9:25             ` Christian Couder
2015-12-08 17:15 ` [PATCH 3/8] update-index: add --test-untracked-cache Christian Couder
2015-12-08 17:15 ` [PATCH 4/8] update-index: move 'uc' var declaration Christian Couder
2015-12-08 17:15 ` [PATCH 5/8] dir: add add_untracked_cache() Christian Couder
2015-12-09  7:37   ` Torsten Bögershausen
2015-12-11  8:54     ` Christian Couder
2015-12-08 17:15 ` [PATCH 6/8] dir: add remove_untracked_cache() Christian Couder
2015-12-08 19:15   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-09  7:39   ` Torsten Bögershausen
2015-12-08 17:15 ` [PATCH 7/8] config: add core.untrackedCache Christian Couder
2015-12-08 19:28   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-08 22:43     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2015-12-14 12:18       ` Christian Couder
2015-12-14 19:44         ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-14 21:30           ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-15  9:34             ` Christian Couder
2015-12-15  9:49               ` Torsten Bögershausen
2015-12-15 16:42                 ` Christian Couder
2015-12-15 10:02               ` Duy Nguyen
2015-12-15 16:35                 ` Christian Couder
2015-12-15 13:04             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2015-12-15 13:42               ` Christian Couder
2015-12-15 19:40               ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-15 21:53                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2015-12-15 23:03                   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-16  1:10                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2015-12-16  2:46                     ` Jeff King
2015-12-16  5:20                       ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-16  6:05                         ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-17  7:44                           ` Jeff King
2015-12-17 12:26                             ` Duy Nguyen
     [not found]                               ` <CAP8UFD0S_rWKjWiq_enkN+QVtvnq9fuwAxuuVTXTxu-F1mw4dg@mail.gmail.com>
2015-12-18 22:40                                 ` Fwd: " Christian Couder
2015-12-21 18:30                               ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-22  8:27                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2015-12-22 16:33                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-24  1:56                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-24  9:49                                       ` Duy Nguyen
2015-12-27 20:21                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2015-12-24 20:54                                       ` Christian Couder
     [not found]                             ` <CAP8UFD0LAQG+gQ5EhYYLjo5=tpW3_ah6GV-mgRbgTjjgNmdorA@mail.gmail.com>
2015-12-18 22:38                               ` Fwd: " Christian Couder
2015-12-17 12:36                   ` Duy Nguyen
2015-12-18 23:24                     ` Christian Couder
2015-12-09 13:19   ` Torsten Bögershausen
2015-12-08 17:15 ` [PATCH 8/8] t7063: add tests for core.untrackedCache Christian Couder

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