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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Duy Nguyen" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Michael Haggerty" <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] gc: run more pre-detach operations under lock
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 11:55:26 -0700
Message-ID: <xmqqef3onl29.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190619191037.GE28145@sigill.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Wed, 19 Jun 2019 15:10:37 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

> I think there may be room for both approaches. Yours fixes the repeated
> message in the more general case, but Duy's suggestion is the most
> efficient thing.

Yeah, not just the most efficient, but it is a low-hanging-fruit
that is very obvious.

> I agree that the "thousands of remotes" case means we might want to gc
> in the interim. But we probably ought to do that deterministically
> rather than hoping that the pattern of lock contention makes sense.

In the process chain starting from the topmost "git fetch
<multiple>", that calls multiple "git fetch <one>" for individual
remotes, that does network transfer and calls "git index-pack" (or
"git unpack-objects"), the bottommost layer knows how much cruft one
step among "thousands of remotes" created for a later "gc", but
there is no mechanism for them to report the information back to
their callers.  Unlike "git svn" that periodically calls the auto gc
every N commits and can claim to be aware of its cruft creation rate
;-), the information available to the topmost "git fetch" is only
the number of underlying fetches, counting a no-op fetch and a fetch
that is close to a full clone equally, which is not a good way to
gauge the cruft creation rate X-<.

A useful deteministic triggering would be a good thing to aim in the
longer run, but would be somewhat involved to design and implement,
I am afraid.

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Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-19  9:46 [PATCH] fetch: only run 'gc' once when fetching multiple remotes Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2019-06-19 10:26 ` [RFC/PATCH] gc: run more pre-detach operations under lock Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-19 12:51   ` Duy Nguyen
2019-06-19 18:01     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-19 19:10       ` Jeff King
2019-06-19 22:49         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-19 23:30           ` [PATCH 0/6] Change <non-empty?> GIT_TEST_* variables to <boolean> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 18:13             ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-20 21:00               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 20:03             ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-20 21:09             ` [PATCH v2 0/8] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-21 10:18               ` [PATCH v3 " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-21 10:18               ` [PATCH v3 1/8] config tests: simplify include cycle test Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-21 10:18               ` [PATCH v3 2/8] env--helper: new undocumented builtin wrapping git_env_*() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-21 17:07                 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-21 10:18               ` [PATCH v3 3/8] config.c: refactor die_bad_number() to not call gettext() early Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-21 10:18               ` [PATCH v3 4/8] t6040 test: stop using global "script" variable Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-21 10:18               ` [PATCH v3 5/8] tests: make GIT_TEST_GETTEXT_POISON a boolean Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-24 16:47                 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-21 10:18               ` [PATCH v3 6/8] tests README: re-flow a previously changed paragraph Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-21 10:18               ` [PATCH v3 7/8] tests: replace test_tristate with "git env--helper" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-09-06 12:13                 ` [PATCH 1/2] t/lib-git-svn.sh: check GIT_TEST_SVN_HTTPD when running SVN HTTP tests SZEDER Gábor
2019-09-06 12:13                   ` [PATCH 2/2] ci: restore running httpd tests SZEDER Gábor
2019-09-06 17:03                     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-09-06 19:13                     ` Jeff King
2019-09-07 10:16                       ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-11-22 13:14                         ` [PATCH 0/2] tests: catch non-bool GIT_TEST_* values SZEDER Gábor
2019-11-22 13:14                           ` [PATCH 1/2] tests: add 'test_bool_env' to " SZEDER Gábor
2019-11-25 13:50                             ` Jeff King
2019-11-22 13:14                           ` [PATCH 2/2] t5608-clone-2gb.sh: turn GIT_TEST_CLONE_2GB into a bool SZEDER Gábor
2019-11-25 13:53                             ` Jeff King
2019-06-21 10:18               ` [PATCH v3 8/8] tests: make GIT_TEST_FAIL_PREREQS a boolean Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 21:09             ` [PATCH v2 1/8] config tests: simplify include cycle test Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 21:09             ` [PATCH v2 2/8] env--helper: new undocumented builtin wrapping git_env_*() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 22:11               ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-20 22:21                 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-21  8:11                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-21 15:04                     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-20 21:09             ` [PATCH v2 3/8] config.c: refactor die_bad_number() to not call gettext() early Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 21:09             ` [PATCH v2 4/8] t6040 test: stop using global "script" variable Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 21:09             ` [PATCH v2 5/8] tests: make GIT_TEST_GETTEXT_POISON a boolean Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 21:09             ` [PATCH v2 6/8] tests README: re-flow a previously changed paragraph Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 21:09             ` [PATCH v2 7/8] tests: replace test_tristate with "git env--helper" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 21:09             ` [PATCH v2 8/8] tests: make GIT_TEST_FAIL_PREREQS a boolean Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-19 23:30           ` [PATCH 1/6] env--helper: new undocumented builtin wrapping git_env_*() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 19:25             ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-19 23:30           ` [PATCH 2/6] t6040 test: stop using global "script" variable Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 19:54             ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-19 23:30           ` [PATCH 3/6] tests: make GIT_TEST_GETTEXT_POISON a boolean Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 20:00             ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-19 23:30           ` [PATCH 4/6] tests README: re-flow a previously changed paragraph Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-19 23:30           ` [PATCH 5/6] tests: replace test_tristate with "git env--helper" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-19 23:30           ` [PATCH 6/6] tests: make GIT_TEST_FAIL_PREREQS a boolean Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 10:26           ` [RFC/PATCH] gc: run more pre-detach operations under lock Duy Nguyen
2019-06-20 21:49             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 10:43           ` Jeff King
2019-06-20 18:55         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2019-06-19 19:08     ` Jeff King
2019-06-19 18:59 ` [PATCH] fetch: only run 'gc' once when fetching multiple remotes Jeff King
2019-06-20 10:11   ` Duy Nguyen
2019-06-20 10:21     ` Jeff King

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