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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] gc: run more pre-detach operations under lock
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 06:43:25 -0400
Message-ID: <20190620104325.GA15942@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87imt18a2r.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 12:49:32AM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:

> We do it deterministically, when gc.auto thresholds et al are exceeded
> we kick one off without waiting for other stuff, if we can get the lock.
> 
> I don't think this desire to just wait a bit until all the fetches are
> complete makes sense as a special-case.
> 
> If, as you noted in <20190619190845.GD28145@sigill.intra.peff.net>, the
> desire is to reduce GC CPU use then you're better off just tweaking the
> limits upwards. Then you get that with everything, like when you run
> "commit" in a for-loop, not just this one special case of "fetch".

If you tweak the limit upwards, then you're more likely to exist in the
non-gc'd state, where reads are penalized. The gc limit is a tradeoff
between paying the price for maintenance work versus paying the price
for having an unmaintained state. So the optimal time is generally right
after you've finished a big chunk of writing, but before you've started
doing a bunch of reading (for continuous operations that are reading and
writing, there's probably some periodic crossover point every N units of
operation).

That said, I doubt it matters more than a few percent either way (if
that). So I'm fine if we want to optimize for simplicity.

-Peff

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Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-19  9:46 [PATCH] fetch: only run 'gc' once when fetching multiple remotes Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2019-06-19 10:26 ` [RFC/PATCH] gc: run more pre-detach operations under lock Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-19 12:51   ` Duy Nguyen
2019-06-19 18:01     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-19 19:10       ` Jeff King
2019-06-19 22:49         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-19 23:30           ` [PATCH 0/6] Change <non-empty?> GIT_TEST_* variables to <boolean> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 18:13             ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-20 21:00               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 20:03             ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-20 21:09             ` [PATCH v2 0/8] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-21 10:18               ` [PATCH v3 " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-21 10:18               ` [PATCH v3 1/8] config tests: simplify include cycle test Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-21 10:18               ` [PATCH v3 2/8] env--helper: new undocumented builtin wrapping git_env_*() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-21 17:07                 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-21 10:18               ` [PATCH v3 3/8] config.c: refactor die_bad_number() to not call gettext() early Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-21 10:18               ` [PATCH v3 4/8] t6040 test: stop using global "script" variable Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-21 10:18               ` [PATCH v3 5/8] tests: make GIT_TEST_GETTEXT_POISON a boolean Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-24 16:47                 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-21 10:18               ` [PATCH v3 6/8] tests README: re-flow a previously changed paragraph Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-21 10:18               ` [PATCH v3 7/8] tests: replace test_tristate with "git env--helper" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-09-06 12:13                 ` [PATCH 1/2] t/lib-git-svn.sh: check GIT_TEST_SVN_HTTPD when running SVN HTTP tests SZEDER Gábor
2019-09-06 12:13                   ` [PATCH 2/2] ci: restore running httpd tests SZEDER Gábor
2019-09-06 17:03                     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-09-06 19:13                     ` Jeff King
2019-09-07 10:16                       ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-11-22 13:14                         ` [PATCH 0/2] tests: catch non-bool GIT_TEST_* values SZEDER Gábor
2019-11-22 13:14                           ` [PATCH 1/2] tests: add 'test_bool_env' to " SZEDER Gábor
2019-11-25 13:50                             ` Jeff King
2019-11-22 13:14                           ` [PATCH 2/2] t5608-clone-2gb.sh: turn GIT_TEST_CLONE_2GB into a bool SZEDER Gábor
2019-11-25 13:53                             ` Jeff King
2019-06-21 10:18               ` [PATCH v3 8/8] tests: make GIT_TEST_FAIL_PREREQS a boolean Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 21:09             ` [PATCH v2 1/8] config tests: simplify include cycle test Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 21:09             ` [PATCH v2 2/8] env--helper: new undocumented builtin wrapping git_env_*() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 22:11               ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-20 22:21                 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-21  8:11                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-21 15:04                     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-20 21:09             ` [PATCH v2 3/8] config.c: refactor die_bad_number() to not call gettext() early Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 21:09             ` [PATCH v2 4/8] t6040 test: stop using global "script" variable Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 21:09             ` [PATCH v2 5/8] tests: make GIT_TEST_GETTEXT_POISON a boolean Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 21:09             ` [PATCH v2 6/8] tests README: re-flow a previously changed paragraph Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 21:09             ` [PATCH v2 7/8] tests: replace test_tristate with "git env--helper" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 21:09             ` [PATCH v2 8/8] tests: make GIT_TEST_FAIL_PREREQS a boolean Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-19 23:30           ` [PATCH 1/6] env--helper: new undocumented builtin wrapping git_env_*() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 19:25             ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-19 23:30           ` [PATCH 2/6] t6040 test: stop using global "script" variable Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 19:54             ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-19 23:30           ` [PATCH 3/6] tests: make GIT_TEST_GETTEXT_POISON a boolean Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 20:00             ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-19 23:30           ` [PATCH 4/6] tests README: re-flow a previously changed paragraph Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-19 23:30           ` [PATCH 5/6] tests: replace test_tristate with "git env--helper" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-19 23:30           ` [PATCH 6/6] tests: make GIT_TEST_FAIL_PREREQS a boolean Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 10:26           ` [RFC/PATCH] gc: run more pre-detach operations under lock Duy Nguyen
2019-06-20 21:49             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-06-20 10:43           ` Jeff King [this message]
2019-06-20 18:55         ` Junio C Hamano
2019-06-19 19:08     ` Jeff King
2019-06-19 18:59 ` [PATCH] fetch: only run 'gc' once when fetching multiple remotes Jeff King
2019-06-20 10:11   ` Duy Nguyen
2019-06-20 10:21     ` Jeff King

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