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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>,
	"Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tests: replace mingw_test_cmp with a helper in C
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2022 14:09:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqbkrpo9or.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <q044qs1r-n8p3-1617-so32-02s1r88186sp@tzk.qr> (Johannes Schindelin's message of "Thu, 8 Sep 2022 22:54:40 +0200 (CEST)")

Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:

>> > Why not use "git diff --no-index --ignore-cr-at-eol"?  Do you even need
>> > to wrap it?
>>
>> Hmph.  That surely sounds sensible if it works, and I offhand do not
>> see why it shouldn't work.
>
> Is this a reversal of the stance you took in your reply in
> https://lore.kernel.org/git/7vps7xrfxa.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net/ to my
> suggestion to replace `cmp` by `diff --no-index` (in that mail referred to
> as patch [7/8])?

cox.net?  It is a lifetime ago and the world has changed.  Hopefully
that "diff --no-index" has matured a lot to earn more confidence by
us than it had back then.

> If I recall correctly, you clarified outside of that thread that "I do not
> think it is a good enough reason to make the tests slower" was you being
> concerned about employing the entire diff machinery instead of doing a
> simple byte-for-byte comparison.

Is it still relevant, now that we are talking about text-cmp that
ignores cr-at-eol, to bring a random remark about byte-for-byte
comparison from more than 10 years ago?

> Just because it is easier to review a one-liner to switch from essentially
> `cmp` to `git diff --no-index --ignore-cr-at-eol` does not mean that it is
> reasonable: it would cause us to blast out that much more CO2, just for
> our one-time convenience.

Measurement, in tons per year, is needed, or please stop talking
about CO2.  It is not that funny.

Developer cycle time is easier to measure and more meaningful.  

It would be much faster to run a byte-for-byte-with-ignore-cr-at-eol
comparison than running "diff --no-index --ignore-cr-at-eol" on
files with meaningful sizes.  But comparison between "expect" and
"actual", which are typically at most several lines long?  Wouldn't
the overhead to spawn a process dwarf everything else, especially on
Windows, whether it is your byte-for-byte-with-ignore-cr-at-eol
program or "git diff"?



  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-08 21:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-29 14:53 [PATCH] tests: replace mingw_test_cmp with a helper in C Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-07-29 14:54 ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-07-29 16:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-06 13:10   ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-09-07 12:09     ` René Scharfe
2022-09-07 16:25       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-07 21:45         ` Re* " Junio C Hamano
2022-09-07 22:39           ` René Scharfe
2022-09-08  0:03             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-08  8:59         ` René Scharfe
2022-09-08 15:26           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-08 20:54         ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-09-08 21:09           ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2022-09-06 13:10 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-09-06 13:10   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] t0021: use Windows-friendly `pwd` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-09-06 13:10   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] tests: replace mingw_test_cmp with a helper in C Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-09-07 11:57     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-07 12:24       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-07 19:45         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-07  9:04   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] " Johannes Schindelin
2022-11-12 22:07   ` [PATCH v3 " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-11-12 22:07     ` [PATCH v3 1/2] t0021: use Windows-friendly `pwd` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-11-12 22:07     ` [PATCH v3 2/2] tests(mingw): avoid very slow `mingw_test_cmp` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-11-13  4:51       ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-14 13:34         ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-11-18 23:15         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-11-19  2:53           ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-19 12:03             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-19  8:18           ` Johannes Sixt
2022-11-19 17:50             ` René Scharfe
2022-11-20  9:29               ` Torsten Bögershausen
2022-11-21 17:49               ` Johannes Sixt
2022-11-21  3:13             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-11-14  9:53       ` Phillip Wood
2022-11-14 13:47         ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-11-14 11:55       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-14 14:02         ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-11-14 15:23           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 23:19             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-11-19  2:56               ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-19 11:54                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-21  3:17                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-11-14 14:06     ` [PATCH v4 0/2] tests(mingw): avoid super-slow mingw_test_cmp Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-11-14 14:06       ` [PATCH v4 1/2] t0021: use Windows-friendly `pwd` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-11-14 14:06       ` [PATCH v4 2/2] tests(mingw): avoid very slow `mingw_test_cmp` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-11-14 22:40         ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-18 13:32           ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-11-18 18:14             ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-20 23:36               ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-11-21  0:07                 ` Taylor Blau
2022-12-06 15:07       ` [PATCH v5 0/2] tests(mingw): avoid super-slow mingw_test_cmp Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-12-06 15:07         ` [PATCH v5 1/2] t0021: use Windows-friendly `pwd` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-12-06 15:07         ` [PATCH v5 2/2] tests(mingw): avoid very slow `mingw_test_cmp` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-12-06 18:55           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-06 21:52           ` Johannes Sixt
2022-12-06 21:54           ` René Scharfe
2022-12-07  4:33             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-12-07  1:31           ` Taylor Blau

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