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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
Cc: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	"Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>,
	"Eric Sunshine" <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] tests(mingw): avoid very slow `mingw_test_cmp`
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2022 12:54:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <221119.86wn7rdugi.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y3hF1vOQ8waqpvXo@nand.local>


On Fri, Nov 18 2022, Taylor Blau wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 03:19:55PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> Well "! test_cmp" is wrong anyway, because it _expects_ two files
>> are the same and gives more detailed diagnosis when they differ by
>> giving "diff" output.
>>
>> If you expect them to be different, "! test_cmp" would give
>> "detailed diagnosis" in the wrong case, i.e. the outcome is what we
>> expect.
>
> I agree that "! test_cmp foo bar" will give output about how "foo" is
> different from "bar" (and halt the test only when the two have the same
> contents).
>
>> So the caller must do "test_cmp !" whether the underlying
>> implementation of test_cmp uses "diff -u" or "diff --no-index".
>
> But this confuses me. "git grep 'test_cmp !'" turns up no results, and
> furthermore, test_cmp() itself begins with:
>
>     test "$#" -ne 2 && BUG "2 param"
>
> So I am not sure what you are referring to.

I think we've got got a bit sidetracked here.

Junio's pointing out that a test that would do:

	! diff a b

Is pretty stupid, why would you want to show a diff of differences, if
you're expecting it to be different? Just use:

	! cmp a b

Or something. That's correct. So I think probably those "! test_cmp"
uses would be good candidates for some clean-up to make the test suite
pretty.

But what I'm pointing out is that by having "test_cmp" be something that
invokes "git" (or a helper) we *must not* negate it using the shell's
negation, we have to use "test_must_fail" for anything we build
ourselves.

So, the proposed patch would make the existing cases where we do:

	! test_cmp

Cases where we'd hide a segfault, whereas before it was maybe a bit odd,
but harmless, and working as intended in the sense of reliably passing
if we had differences.

So no, nothing currently does "test_cmp !", I was suggesting that
upthread as the least invasive way of having "test_cmp" safe'd under
negation, now that we were having it call out to "git diff" (or a
helper...). It's the pattern we use for our own test helpers that invoke
our own binaries (and if we don't, that's a bug).




  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-19 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-29 14:53 [PATCH] tests: replace mingw_test_cmp with a helper in C Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-07-29 14:54 ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-07-29 16:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-06 13:10   ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-09-07 12:09     ` René Scharfe
2022-09-07 16:25       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-07 21:45         ` Re* " Junio C Hamano
2022-09-07 22:39           ` René Scharfe
2022-09-08  0:03             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-08  8:59         ` René Scharfe
2022-09-08 15:26           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-08 20:54         ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-09-08 21:09           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-06 13:10 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-09-06 13:10   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] t0021: use Windows-friendly `pwd` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-09-06 13:10   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] tests: replace mingw_test_cmp with a helper in C Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-09-07 11:57     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-07 12:24       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-07 19:45         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-07  9:04   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] " Johannes Schindelin
2022-11-12 22:07   ` [PATCH v3 " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-11-12 22:07     ` [PATCH v3 1/2] t0021: use Windows-friendly `pwd` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-11-12 22:07     ` [PATCH v3 2/2] tests(mingw): avoid very slow `mingw_test_cmp` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-11-13  4:51       ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-14 13:34         ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-11-18 23:15         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-11-19  2:53           ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-19 12:03             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-19  8:18           ` Johannes Sixt
2022-11-19 17:50             ` René Scharfe
2022-11-20  9:29               ` Torsten Bögershausen
2022-11-21 17:49               ` Johannes Sixt
2022-11-21  3:13             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-11-14  9:53       ` Phillip Wood
2022-11-14 13:47         ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-11-14 11:55       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-14 14:02         ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-11-14 15:23           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 23:19             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-11-19  2:56               ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-19 11:54                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2022-11-21  3:17                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-11-14 14:06     ` [PATCH v4 0/2] tests(mingw): avoid super-slow mingw_test_cmp Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-11-14 14:06       ` [PATCH v4 1/2] t0021: use Windows-friendly `pwd` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-11-14 14:06       ` [PATCH v4 2/2] tests(mingw): avoid very slow `mingw_test_cmp` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-11-14 22:40         ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-18 13:32           ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-11-18 18:14             ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-20 23:36               ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-11-21  0:07                 ` Taylor Blau
2022-12-06 15:07       ` [PATCH v5 0/2] tests(mingw): avoid super-slow mingw_test_cmp Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-12-06 15:07         ` [PATCH v5 1/2] t0021: use Windows-friendly `pwd` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-12-06 15:07         ` [PATCH v5 2/2] tests(mingw): avoid very slow `mingw_test_cmp` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2022-12-06 18:55           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-06 21:52           ` Johannes Sixt
2022-12-06 21:54           ` René Scharfe
2022-12-07  4:33             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-12-07  1:31           ` Taylor Blau

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